Small Weapons?

[Storyteller01]

This goes beside the point. The point of the argument is whether a warrior with a certain weapon is exactly as effective as he would be with a weapon of similar size which was designed for a considerably larger subject, or if there is a small difference that is not always easy to appreciate. Your anecdotal example does not prove anything.

Not so. As said 11 year old grew older he applied the techniques he learned on the wakizashi to the katana. Their was minimal adjustment during the transition, but nothing requiring an extended amount of training.

My problem is that the -2 per size catagory penaly is designed to simulate the discomfort, unusual weight, or subtle design differences of a weapon when used by someone other than who it was designed for (or race). The thing is (IMHO), with weapons in very similar design and size (a small shortsword versus a dagger) such penalties are usually overcome in a matter of hours. There may be discomfort, but we are no less effective. We humans do it all the time when we become used anothers weapons or tools. And yes, these differences can be as extreme in humans as they would be between humans and halflings (before mass production anyway). Once you have become accostumed to the weight varience weilding the weapon is not a problem.

 

[Storyteller01]

I can certainly understand that point of view, even if I don't agree with the whole of it.
One area that I think we will both agree on is that centaurs and driders now use large sized weapons, despite the fact the the humanoid torso is not described at being particularly larger then that of a normal human/drow elf. Why this bit of idiocy when forward, I will never understand.

Might not be idiocy so much as lack of clarification, but I agree.

Unless the horse body is something close to a Clydesdale in size, the human half would most likely have a 'medium critter' frame. How big around is a horses neck?

 

[Hypersmurf]

As I mentioned earlier, their are stiletto style blades with handles no more than 1/2" x 3/8" and 4" long, wielded by humans. Said stiletto weights less an a pound. Would a small race suffer a -2 for using this weapon, simply because it isn't weighted for them?

If it's a Medium weapon? Then yes, they suffer a -2 penalty, because it's designed for a creature one size category larger.

Got another question for ya! I haven't fully perused 3.5 yet, so:
Does a small quarterstaff do a d4 in damage?

Yes.

If so, why?

Because a Medium quarterstaff does 1d6 damage.

-Hyp.

 

[Storyteller01]

If it's a Medium weapon? Then yes, they suffer a -2 penalty, because it's designed for a creature one size category larger.



Yes.



Because a Medium quarterstaff does 1d6 damage.

-Hyp.

1) Then why? The stilletto is evenly balanced (solid construction equivalent to a spike) , has no exotic or unusual fringes, no hand guard to get in the way, and has a minimum profile. Why would a smaller creature have a hard time using this weapon if a 3 year old human has no problem manipulatingm or grasping said weapon? Remember that said smaller creatures are more dexteritous and experienced than a 3 year old human.

2)What is the difference between a small quarterstaff and a club?

 

[Hypersmurf]

But what is the difference between a small quarterstaff and a club?

The Medium club depicted in the PHB looks to be about four inches in diameter for most of its length.

A quarterstaff is less than two.

-Hyp.

 

[Storyteller01]

The Medium club depicted in the PHB looks to be about four inches in diameter for most of its length.

A quarterstaff is less than two.

-Hyp.

Most clubs aren't this wide, for ease of manipulation and balance. Also monks weapons, if they are using their martial arts equivalents, will also be roughly 1" along it's total length, especially if made from bamboo or rittan.

Ever been hit in the head with the thick end of a pool cue?

Also, Per Spycraft (I believe), a baton does 1d6 damage. Siad baton is also 1" in diameter along its total length.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Also, Per Spycraft (I believe), a baton does 1d6 damage.

A Small baton, on the other hand, would do 1d4.

-Hyp.

 

[Bauglir]

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[Storyteller01]

A Small baton, on the other hand, would do 1d4.

-Hyp.

Question still stands: what is the diference between a small quarter staff and a club/baton?

 

[Storyteller01]

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