Smallville 03.03.04 [SPOILERS]

Brother Shatterstone said:
I would agree with that analogy. :)
Yeah, I figured we were of same mind on this.

Plot crutch? Bah! It's Superman and his the only thing that can hurt him. Plus it was a metor storm. Not just one metor. Of course they are going to be everywhere. :)
 

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I dunno. Part of the reason why I don't watch the show that much is because of the freakin' kryptonite that appears 45 minutes into each episode. It's part of the problem with Superman, of course -- when your bad guy has exactly one weakness, then you have exactly one plot.

Buffy had vampires in most episodes, but often they were allies of hers, not the central conflict of the episode. Indeed, they weren't really a conflict at all: if there's one thing Buffy's good at, it's slaying vampires. They're her strength, not her weakness. It'd be more apt to compare Kryptonite's role in Smallville to Not Telling Your Friends Vital Information's role in Buffy -- another cheap way to get conflict that got really old.

Daniel
 

I must say I thought the episode was great. It's killing me that I have to wait another month before we get to see new ones.

The use of the meteorites iss getting a little old but I don't fell it takes anything away from the story. Doesn't really add anything either though.
 

Brother Shatterstone said:
That doesn't make any sense if you ask me and there for is probably the right answer... :rolleyes:

How WB, who owns the rights to both character, live action, print, animation, etc could have issues about rights seems to stupid to fathom...
Eh, it gets thorny. See, Warner and WB are going to be probably separate but related entities. But that whole 'separate' part is what confuses things. And it depends on the contracts for the various rights. Different entities may own the rights to different venues. TV and film rights are two totally different things, as well as who gets to distribute those. Usually a company will sew up all related rights, but sometimes things slip through the cracks.

A well-known incident popped up for a series of Anti-drug comics starring the (Perez era) Teen Titans. The anti-drug comic was sponsored by a cookie company. Robin was part of the Teen Titans, but his character was licensed to a rival of the cookie company at the time, so could not appear. A new character was created at the last minute and inserted. (I've seen original art from that series; There's this blob of white-out-like stuff under every appearance of Protector; hold it up to the light and you can faintly see the Robin art underneath). Thus, even though DC 'owned' Robin, they couldn't license him out willy-nilly; it all depended on who had bought right to him first.

That's the kind of silliness that held up production of a Spider-Man movie for years; Marvel had sold off rights to Spider-Man to a number of companies. Those rights move when companies disband or are acquirred by others companies. Thus, Spider-Man ended up being in the hands of like a half-dozen people, some of whom had video rights, some had TV rights, some had distributuion rights, etc, and all of whom wanted a part of the pie, or some aspect of control over the property. Marvel finally got most of that tangle untangled. Warner has still yet to do that.

The Smallville producers likely have a contract to use certain items from the Superman license. That like as not does not include the Batman license. They can get away with the occassional thing like mentions of Oliver Queen and Wally West, mainly because those characters are not tied up in someone elses rights package. Like as not as well, DC or Warner might have some veto power or script approval power written into the contract. Usually that's the case with major characters, so someone doesn't get a wild hair and decide to write a script where Clark comes out of the closet and shacks up with Wesley, or Lana decides she's going to join the KKK.
 

John Crichton said:
I have no problem with the rocks being in nearly every ep. Just as I had no problem with vampires being in nearly every ep of Buffy. ;)
Hmm... Buffy is about vampires (she's a vampire Slayer), but Superman isn't about Kryptonite is he? (Superman: The Kryptonite Slayee!!)

Just because that's an obvious weakness doesn't mean it's the only tool the writers should use... I mean they put Kryptonite in Pete's tuned street racer for heaven's sake. Talk about lack of imagination!

I wish they would use more creative weaknesses like his loved ones or some general lack of knowlege (secrets and conspiricies, which they do use a little).

Don't get me wrong, Smallville is one of my favorite shows, but I roll my eyes when it's all about the Kryptonite...
 

shadowlight said:
I wish they would use more creative weaknesses like his loved ones or some general lack of knowlege (secrets and conspiricies, which they do use a little).
I don't think the writers have even touched on Superman's weakness to magic, ie, he is affected as a normal human. The comics every now and then would at least bring that up. Plus it gives the writers at least another ally to run down every now and then. ;)
 
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shadowlight said:
Just because that's an obvious weakness doesn't mean it's the only tool the writers should use... I mean they put Kryptonite in Pete's tuned street racer for heaven's sake. Talk about lack of imagination!
Well you have my vote on that but to be honest the whole show is about character interaction if you think about theirs been little to no physical challenge to Clark and tossing in super powered freaks from the comics make little to no sense so I suspect allot of little green rocks since it looks like Bruce isn't going to be allowed to teach him a lesson. :(
 

I don't think that the Vampire/Kryptonite analogy is appropriate because Buffy didn't have Vampire as the explanation behind everything every episode; if they were, the show would not have lasted a whole season. Vamps were a major element, but not the only one; other demons, life-sucking mummies, zombies, gods, a school gunman, heck, one 3rd season episode used the Jekyl and Hyde story as inspiration. But GreenK a day doesn't make the bad plot bug go away - it just exacerbates it. It was a welcome change just using Clark's Blood as a macguffin, instead of Green K!

There are plenty of perils that Clark's Super-abilites can't help in.
 

Henry said:
I don't think that the Vampire/Kryptonite analogy is appropriate because Buffy didn't have Vampire as the explanation behind everything every episode; if they were, the show would not have lasted a whole season. Vamps were a major element, but not the only one; other demons, life-sucking mummies, zombies, gods, a school gunman, heck, one 3rd season episode used the Jekyl and Hyde story as inspiration. But GreenK a day doesn't make the bad plot bug go away - it just exacerbates it. It was a welcome change just using Clark's Blood as a macguffin, instead of Green K!

There are plenty of perils that Clark's Super-abilites can't help in.
I wasn't really going for an accurate analogy of main-character weaknesses, I was referring to its simple presence on the show. While I would like to see more diversity in conflicts it doesn't bother me right now because there is certainly more to come if they are truly following the Buffy mold (which is pretty obvious). Season 4 of Buffy had less to do with vamps than any other season and I believe Smallville will go the same route with the Krypto-rocks.
 

I'm sorry. That's the reason I didn't watch Smallville originally. I had heard it was episodic junk where every episode Clark defeats some poor schmuck who gained super powers from kryptonite and invariably went mad with them.

Superman may not have very many things that can kill him, but there doesn't have to be something that can kill him in every episode. There can be things that hurt his feelings, hurt others, strain relationships, build relationships, introduce characters, introduce plotlines that have nothing to do with kryptonite, and a hundred other things. Not every Superman comic has the green stuff showing up in it. There are plenty of other conflicts. Heck, not even everyone has a villain per se in it.

I'm sure there are tons of reasons why that won't fly. But c'mon.

Do they have to have kryptonite in every episode? I came to watch Clark. Not green rocks.
 

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