So i pick the halfling up, and use him as a club to beat the orc...'

[Olive]

Are there any rules for picking characters up and using them as improvised weapons?

Grapple followed by improvised weapon penalty attack role?

How much damage would you do?

 

[Nightfall]

I'd rule two things:

1) you'd need a feat to do it properly. Otherwise you get a -4 to hit and damage.

2) Halflings, being small, only do 1d3 damage.

 

[jgsugden]

I'd rule two things:

1) you'd need a feat to do it properly. Otherwise you get a -4 to hit and damage.

2) Halflings, being small, only do 1d3 damage.

I agree on the -4 to hit ...

As for the damage: I'd make it the same as unarmed damage (without any feats). Halflings have too much give ... they'd only do a bit of subdual damage.

 

[Feliks]

If he still has daggers in hand then I would rule that he does damage as a morningstar

We have used the "Kender-toss" method of getting a rope into a window before. Mixed results. BTW, it is usually bad in the long run to annoy the party thief.

 

[Herremann the Wise]

Hi everyone,

To Hit: -4.
I think there is a feat somewhere in terms of using unusual things as weapons - broken bottle, split chair leg etc. - without penalty. I suppose this could also include a halfling.

Damage: 1d3 Subdual
However, should damage also be done to the halfling? Intuitively, I would say yes. However, you don't deal damage to a weapon when you hit something so theoretically, no damage to the Halfling. For flavor though, I'd say 1d3 Subdual to both.

Best Regards
Herremann the Wise

 

[Nightfall]

Hermannan,

PG: Fighters and Barbarians has an Improvised Weaponry Feat to decrease this.

But I think the damage shouldn't be subdual. Especially not to the halfling.

 

[Wormwood]

A Halfling is arguably a Medium object resized down to Small-size, therefore a Medium-sized wielder may incur an additional -2 penalty for using an improperly sized weapon.

 

[Nightfall]

Forgot about that, but even so, meduim to small doesn't make it harder to hit. Usually. Medium to large would.

 

[Gez]

One need to determine what "humanoid" as a weapon deal for damage. I would say 2d4 bashing. While a body makes a big weapon, it's actually quite floppy overall.

Then, if you use a halfling, and you are yourself a human, you would get a -4 nonproficiency penalty and a -2 size penalty (because the halfling is Small, while you're Medium). Damage would be one category lower 2d4, so I would be generous and say 1d8 (slightly smaller average).

 

[Nightfall]

Not sure I quite agree with everything about that Gez, but I do think you make the point about the human and halfling use quite well.