So, Wandavision?

[pukunui]

So Elizabeth Olsen has said in interviews that episode 4 will be a real game changer for the series. I wonder if it will be the Halloween episode.

She’s also said that Wanda’s Sokovian accent is “still there”. The American accent is part of her sitcom fantasy persona. In episode 3, we saw her sing a “Sokovian” lullaby to her twins. I wonder if in future episodes her accent will slip.

 

[pukunui]

It's not necessary. People are overthinking this.

The idea that Wanda, an immigrant from eastern Europe, has fantasies inspired by classic American television . . . . I don't find that odd or in any need of explanation.

I wouldn’t call it “overthinking”. I am enjoying this show and am enjoying talking / speculating about things.

There’s no need to go raining on my parade with all that logic!

 

[Rune]

So Elizabeth Olsen has said in interviews that episode 4 will be a real game changer for the series. I wonder if it will be the Halloween episode.

She’s also said that Wanda’s Sokovian accent is “still there”. The American accent is part of her sitcom fantasy persona. In episode 3, we saw her sing a “Sokovian” lullaby to her twins. I wonder if in future episodes her accent will slip.

It did in episode 3, while she was talking about her brother.

 

[pukunui]

It did in episode 3, while she was talking about her brother.

Did it? I’ll have to rewatch that bit.

 

[Rune]

What, you wanted a scene in one of the Avengers movies with Wanda on the couch, with a bowl of popcorn, "netflix and chillin'" with the Vision?

Not particularly.

I’m just pointing out that there isn’t (yet?) any actual evidence to support the idea that Wanda is a classic American sitcom-junkie. She easily could be, but without evidence, that particular conclusion requires a jump.

 

[Dire Bare]

So Elizabeth Olsen has said in interviews that episode 4 will be a real game changer for the series. I wonder if it will be the Halloween episode.

She’s also said that Wanda’s Sokovian accent is “still there”. The American accent is part of her sitcom fantasy persona. In episode 3, we saw her sing a “Sokovian” lullaby to her twins. I wonder if in future episodes her accent will slip.

Accents are, of course, a function of language. Just as anyone, with effort, can learn a new language . . . anyone can learn a new dialect or accent. Some immigrants, of course, struggle with "losing" their native accent . . . . others speak English so flawlessly that they have less of an "accent" than some native speakers. How long can this learning process take? That also varies by individual, it can be as short as months!

Wanda, adapting a flawless standard American accent is also something that isn't weird or strange. They didn't show (to my memory) any "transition" scenes in the movies . . . but also something not really necessary.

Things that happen all the time in real life, don't need complicated world-building explanations in genre TV and film. IMO, of course.

 

[Dire Bare]

I’m just pointing out that there isn’t (yet?) any actual evidence to support the idea that Wanda is a classic American sitcom-junkie. She easily could be, but without evidence, that particular conclusion requires a jump.

No, it isn't really a jump. This doesn't need evidence. It's not weird or unusual.

The evidence that Wanda associates classic American sitcoms with an ideal family life is what we're watching right now! This alternate reality created from her subconscious is all the evidence we really need.

We are definitely overthinking some of the aspects of this show's world and character building.

 

[MarkB]

No, it isn't really a jump. This doesn't need evidence. It's not weird or unusual.

The evidence that Wanda associates classic American sitcoms with an ideal family life is what we're watching right now! This alternate reality created from her subconscious is all the evidence we really need.

We are definitely overthinking some of the aspects of this show's world and character building.

I think you're missing the point slightly. The fact that the show is all about American sitcoms can be taken as evidence that maybe this isn't all just coming out of Wanda's subconscious - unless we have pre-established evidence that, despite not growing up in that culture, she does in fact have extensive experience of several decades' worth of American sitcoms.

 

[Dire Bare]

I think you're missing the point slightly. The fact that the show is all about American sitcoms can be taken as evidence that maybe this isn't all just coming out of Wanda's subconscious - unless we have pre-established evidence that, despite not growing up in that culture, she does in fact have extensive experience of several decades' worth of American sitcoms.

I don't think I'm missing the point . . . I just don't agree with the logic.

 

[Rune]

No, it isn't really a jump. This doesn't need evidence. It's not weird or unusual.

The evidence that Wanda associates classic American sitcoms with an ideal family life is what we're watching right now! This alternate reality created from her subconscious is all the evidence we really need.

I hear you. I disagree, but I hear you. None of that is actually evidence of anything until we know that what we are witnessing is, in fact, Wanda’s construct. That may well turn out to be the case, but it is, as of yet, unrevealed.

The assumption that it is a given is another conclusion jumped to. Any evidence used to support the assumption that is also based on that assumption isn’t evidence of anything but a circular argument. Again, it might be true; we just can’t know yet.

We are definitely overthinking some of the aspects of this show's world and character building.

Who’s overthinking? The show presents mysteries. It wants to be analyzed.