D&D 5E Spellcasters and Balance in 5e: A Poll

[Minigiant]

Scholar still makes no sense as a D&D class.

It's just a name.
Bard and Barbarian are dumb names too.

 

[FrogReaver]

Yeah but attacking was the delivery method of the rider, not the delivery method of more damage. At least not without allies in the mix. The rider was the exciting part.

Well, to be fair that was the case for almost every class in the game - not just warlords.

Valor Bard isn't that great at fighting compared to a Fighter, but gets full casting. Take that Full Casting away and give them leader abilities instead and maybe give them better armor in the process of removing Full Castng and I think you'd have a character who can fight but is valued for his leadership.

I don't see that working. It'd be alot like saying, let's take the casters full caster abilities away and give them martial abilities to compensate. You'd have to ramp up martial abilities significantly stronger post level 5 to keep up.

 

[FrogReaver]

It's just a name.
Bard and Barbarian are dumb names too.

I'm with you on Bard.

I don't find Barbarian to be a dumb name - though it's mechanic doesn't necessarily tie into the class name.

 

[Tinker-TDC]

I don't see that working. It'd be alot like saying, let's take the casters full caster abilities away and give them martial abilities to compensate. You'd have to ramp up martial abilities significantly stronger post level 5 to keep up.

Um...yes? Isn't that exactly what is being said? That is the goal! (or at least my goal in this, I speak for no one else.)

 

[FrogReaver]

Um...yes? Isn't that exactly what is being said? That is the goal! (or at least my goal in this, I speak for no one else.)

Then surprise! I'm criticizing that goal as a problem.

 

[Don Durito]

Scholar still makes no sense as a D&D class.

Spheres of Might
Star Wars D&D Hack

See also Adventures in Middle Earth for a third take.

 

[FrogReaver]

Spheres of Might
Star Wars D&D Hack

See also Adventures in Middle Earth for a third take.

I read through the spheres one. It's kind of cool but just feels really underpowered. Also, it kind of feels rather artificery to me.

Scholars can work in Adventures of Middle Earth because its an extremely low magic setting where you can't even play a Wizard.

 

[Don Durito]

I read through the spheres one. It's kind of cool but just feels really underpowered. Also, it kind of feels rather artificery to me.

Scholars can work in Adventures of Middle Earth because its an extremely low magic setting where you can't even play a Wizard.

With the Sphere's of Might one it's intended to be used with the Spheres system, so that's where a lot of the power would come from.

Mind you I haven't played it, or analysed it in depth, so it may still be underpowered.

The Star Wars one is probably closest to what people here are talking about as it's built of the Battlemaster maneuver system.

 

[Tinker-TDC]

Then surprise! I'm criticizing that goal as a problem.

Ah, okay then! If martial abilities need to be significantly ramped up past level 5 to be on par with casters then I am in favor of significantly ramping up martial abilities past level 5.

 

[FrogReaver]

Ah, okay then! If martial abilities need to be significantly ramped up past level 5 to be on par with casters then I am in favor of significantly ramping up martial abilities past level 5.

Do it ina new game or with a total class rewrite. You can’t do it with a single new class or you ruin the balance the game does have.