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bloodtide

Explorer
Soji is the Destroyer daughter a Lore, she will kill all natural life....that is what the Zhat Vash (and their founder the R. Daniel rip off) fear. That is my guess.
 


Truth Seeker

Adventurer
Soji is the Destroyer daughter a Lore, she will kill all natural life....that is what the Zhat Vash (and their founder the R. Daniel rip off) fear. That is my guess.
Well, if this version of the story is going that way...then I accept this as a pocket universe from Secret Hideout. Upon finishing, will be put away and forgotten.
 


MarkB

Legend
What's an "R. Daniel"?
I Guess he means Daneel Olivaw, the humaniform robot from Asimov's Elijah Bailey novels, and one of the main inspirations for Data's character. Notably, it was Asimov who came up with the term "positronics" as the basis of robotic brains in his stories.
 

Truth Seeker

Adventurer
Well, after rewatching STP # 6...still dragged out, until the meet up with Hugh, that was the best part.

STP # 7---Say goodbye to Hugh.
 


Mallus

Hero
Maybe, maybe not. Elnor seeams thoroughly bad ass.
I'll bet 10 quatloos and a strip of gold-pressed latinum that Elnor makes it (he better!). Speaking of gambling, what do you think the odds are Soji becomes the Borg cube's new queen by the end of episode 10?

I mean, it's pretty clear that Maddox used pilfered Borg technology to create Soji & Dahj, right? And the trajector being housed in the 'queen cell' has to mean something, as does Soji's space cultural anthropology degree. She's going to be a less hivemindful, more consent-based 'queen' of the xBs.
 

Beleriphon

Totally Awesome Pirate Brain
I'll bet 10 quatloos and a strip of gold-pressed latinum that Elnor makes it (he better!). Speaking of gambling, what do you think the odds are Soji becomes the Borg cube's new queen by the end of episode 10?
I hope not for Soji, mostly because that doesn't strike me as the setup they're going for.

As for Elnor, why invest in all the character setup and then kill him off screen? They killed Icheb (I didn't even know how that was!).
 

Mallus

Hero
I hope not for Soji, mostly because that doesn't strike me as the setup they're going for.
Where do you see them going with Soji? Future crew member on La Sirena?

I admit, whenever her story ends up, I'd kinda like to see her sister resurrected/rebooted/MacOS Time Machined back to life via fractal neuronal deus ex machina.

Call me old-fashioned, but a little resurrection among friends is a Star Trek tradition.
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
I don't see them making the Borg Cu..., ummm, the "Artifact" such a big thing without there being some Borgification, at some point. But I'm just cynical.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully

Adventurer
I don't see them making the Borg Cu..., ummm, the "Artifact" such a big thing without there being some Borgification, at some point. But I'm just cynical.
I am not sure. The interesting aspect is that Soji wasn't investigating some advanced Borg tech or anything. She was looking into the Romulans that got assimilated. So maybe the Artifact is really just the backdrop, basically, something that uniquely affects the characters and is very particular to Star Trek, but still just one way you can find out about some of the deeper secrets of the Romulans.
Presumably, the secret has something to do with why some Romulans hate or fear Synths so much. Maybe it still all goes back to the Borg, and maybe Soji is the first Borg Queen or whatever, but it doesn't seem to fit - the Borg are cyborgs, they aren't synthetics. I believe in one of the TNG Borg episodes they seemed to consider Data a dead end. Their whole motivation in striving for perfection isn't particular fitting either to Soji's, Data's or even Lore's ambitions in life. Maybe it fits Soong family ethos a bit, it seems both the ENT era Soong and Noonien Soong seemed to dream of a "better" lifeform with Augments and Androids.
 

MarkB

Legend
Maybe, maybe not. Elnor seeams thoroughly bad ass.
I'm pretty sure Hugh just wore out his welcome as director of the reclamation project, so maybe he'll transport out to the La Sirena with Elnor. Then maybe we get to see how their ship fares against Romulan Birds of Prey that aren't a century out of date.
 

Beleriphon

Totally Awesome Pirate Brain
I'm pretty sure Hugh just wore out his welcome as director of the reclamation project, so maybe he'll transport out to the La Sirena with Elnor. Then maybe we get to see how their ship fares against Romulan Birds of Prey that aren't a century out of date.
I'd guess not well. That said, it looked mostly like smaller scout craft from some of the establishing shots. I don't think Narek was delivered on a full sized Bird of Prey, but I'm sure that would be intentional.
 

Truth Seeker

Adventurer
I hope not for Soji, mostly because that doesn't strike me as the setup they're going for.

As for Elnor, why invest in all the character setup and then kill him off screen? They killed Icheb (I didn't even know how that was!).
The same can be said for Maddox, name mentioned throughout the beginning of the series...and offed by his 'lover', death smothered over with ease. Just a means to further the plot.
 

Hussar

Legend
I have to admit, the death of Maddox is a HUGE plot hole. The EMH witnessed Maddox dying and being deactivated. Wouldn't there be any report to the captain at all? The EMH's are usually intelligent enough to detect foul play.

But, that aside, people are forgetting something here. This is different story telling from other versions of Star Trek. This is serial fiction, not episodic. This is basically just one really long episode. Thought about that way, killing off characters isn't all that surprising. Everyone is a red shirt in this show.
 

I have to admit, the death of Maddox is a HUGE plot hole. The EMH witnessed Maddox dying and being deactivated. Wouldn't there be any report to the captain at all? The EMH's are usually intelligent enough to detect foul play.
They probably should have at least had her say something like "Computer, Deactivate EMH. Erase current medical record." Or something. I agree that it should be on file. Though maybe it is, it's not like we've seen the EMH since, have we? This deception shouldn't last for long before it's discovered, or they ought to show her doing more to keep it under wraps.
 


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