Star Trek Picard SPOILERS thread

[Umbran]

One rather glaring plot hole though in Ep 3. There's half a dozen very dead Romulan assassins in Picard's living room. Wouldn't the smart thing be to call some attention to the fact that there are half a dozen dead Romulan assassins in his front room and a living witness to the "Vulcan" security officer questioning that doctor with the assassins showing up shortly after?

As if Star Fleet Security, which is apparently complicit in the Romulan presence, can't cover this up?

 

[Umbran]

But wouldn’t the effects of a supernova would take years or decades to reach other systems? And they have warp drives. It seems like moving would be possible.

I'd take it that any supernova explosion will also have subspace effects, which would travel faster than light, and likely be ruinous to any advanced technology. What happens to a Trek world when their replicators and transporters and shuttles stop working?

 

[Morrus]

I'd take it that any supernova explosion will also have subspace effects, which would travel faster than light, and likely be ruinous to any advanced technology. What happens to a Trek world when their replicators and transporters and shuttles stop working?

I dunno. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen starships operating just fine around black holes, exploding stars, all sorts of stuff!

 

[Janx]

But wouldn’t the effects of a supernova would take years or decades to reach other systems? And they have warp drives. It seems like moving would be possible.

It's probably like Y2K. If we don't take this problem seriously and ramp up efforts to resolve it, horrible things will happen... Or, if we build and prep ships now, we can stage an orderly evacuation and it won't seem like a big deal.

Also, is it just me, or in every space show, when they want to tell us a planet's population is in jeopardy, they tell us some paltry number like "thousands or millions of lives are at stake."

Our planet has seven BILLION people. Obviously, a colony planet might not have fully settled a planet like that. But main worlds? Give me some numbers that reflect a reality we already live in, even if they didn't breed like bunnies, a developed world should probably have at least a billion people by now.

 

[Morrus]

Our planet has seven BILLION people. Obviously, a colony planet might not have fully settled a planet like that. But main worlds? Give me some numbers that reflect a reality we already live in, even if they didn't breed like bunnies, a developed world should probably have at least a billion people by now.

Sure. But a lot of them have cars.

 

[Umbran]

I dunno. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen starships operating just fine around black holes, exploding stars, all sorts of stuff!

Name a time when a star explodes, and the ship doesn't run away at warp speed. I can't think of any. Every time a star explodes, the ship is having engine trouble, and must run away at maximum warp at the last second. It's a trope.

Black holes are rleatively static objects. Supernovae... aren't. Not equivalent cases.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I dunno. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen starships operating just fine around black holes, exploding stars, all sorts of stuff!

Sure, but it was established (even if pretty poorly written) in the movie where the concept first appeared, that THAT particular Supernova was unusual, in that Spock was worried that it "threatened to destroy the galaxy" (whatever THAT means - stars blow up in the galaxy all the time). This is one of many reasons why I think the Romulans were "fracking" their star - something weird was going on with it. Spock's little weird ship was supposed to be FAST, too, and he had trouble outrunning it.

Somewhere in Picard, I seem to recall someone saying something that made me calculate that they'd been working on the Evacuation for three years. That either means that the explosion wasn't too much FTL, or they had more warning than the movie suggested. Which they should have, if it was Romulus's star. They should have known for years/centuries that it was gonna go.

Of course, in the movie, Nero whined that the Federation did nothing to help. He also time-traveled to the past and as far as we know, did nothing himself, so his opinion is a bit suspect. He was nuts.

 

[Hussar]

As if Star Fleet Security, which is apparently complicit in the Romulan presence, can't cover this up?

It’s a bit much to think all of star fleet security is complicit though.

 

[Hussar]

It would be an interesting math exercise to calculate how fast you’d need to evacuate a planet to get ahead of birth rate, never minding the already born.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

It would be an interesting math exercise to calculate how fast you’d need to evacuate a planet to get ahead of birth rate, never minding the already born.

Is it faster to land and load, or to beam everyone up (what is it, six at a time, per transporter room?) I expect a bit-of-both. Still would take forever, wouldn't it?