Star Trek Picard SPOILERS thread

Ryujin

Adventurer
Got a strange feeling that this "synth federation" is going to be like the probe from Babylon 5. Smart enough to contact us? Gotta die.
 
The post-organic age wouldn't suddenly become a peaceful everlasting paradise. At least not without a lot of hard work - and if you're willing to do the hard work to maintain peace, you could have tried that with the organics, too.
That's like a second marriage. You thought you fought with your first spouse because there was something "wrong" with the relationship. You get into the same fights with the second one because... people don't agree on everything. Then you learn that you have to actually work and compromise to make a relationship work. Your second marriage works better, not always because you find a better partner (though the lucky get that too) but because you grow up more. (Of course, if you are a slow learner, this might be 3rd or later, or never happen - at which point the problem is almost certainly you.)
 

Hussar

Legend
Got a strange feeling that this "synth federation" is going to be like the probe from Babylon 5. Smart enough to contact us? Gotta die.
To be fair, that's something that has been explored in Trek a number of times. Particularly old Trek. Not so much TNG. But, all the way up to V'ger in the first ST movie, the notion of some sort of probe killing all of us has been done.
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
To be fair, that's something that has been explored in Trek a number of times. Particularly old Trek. Not so much TNG. But, all the way up to V'ger in the first ST movie, the notion of some sort of probe killing all of us has been done.
Except that it wouldn't be killing all of us, but rather all of them.
 

Janx

Hero
That's exactly what the show has been about since the 1960s. "New worlds and new civlizations".
the new worlds required a ship to go visit and see who's on them.

Finding a 8-star system requires a sci-fi telescope. Given how much of our galaxy is mapped already (enough to populate a video game), they probably KNOW where every star is, they just don't know who lives there. thus, the existence of this system should've piqued curiosity by everybody (maybe fed scientists emailed romulan ones asking about it and they lied).
 

Janx

Hero
My guess is that it was in former Romulan space? Or at least in an 'unmapped' part of what used to be the neutral zone.

It's "only" 26 light-years from where they were, which was Romulan space, I think.

By my math (and feel free to correct me, I've never tried this before) that would normally take 4.5 days at Warp 9.9. No wonder Picard seemed impressed by how fast they got there.
there might be some confusion. Soji's system is not the 8-star system with the Admonition thingy. I'm talking about that system specifically because it's something astronomers of StarTrek tech level would have seen from anywhere in the galaxy during mapping.
 
there might be some confusion. Soji's system is not the 8-star system with the Admonition thingy. I'm talking about that system specifically because it's something astronomers of StarTrek tech level would have seen from anywhere in the galaxy during mapping.
Oh right. For some reason I conflated the two. At any rate, there's a whole lot of reasons it could have been off federation star-charts. Or on them but not well-known.
 

Mallus

Hero
Finding a 8-star system requires a sci-fi telescope.
In science fiction like Arrival or Contact the octonary system would have been found with a telescope.

But Picard is Star Trek, where you find stellar anomalies by flying kinda close to them in a FTL spaceship.
 

Hussar

Legend
The joke when they look out the top of the crashed spaceship and the doctor says that she didn't even know there were windows in starships just made me giggle like a slightly concussed gerbil.
 

Ryujin

Adventurer
The joke when they look out the top of the crashed spaceship and the doctor says that she didn't even know there were windows in starships just made me giggle like a slightly concussed gerbil.
A variation on that theme appears in a book that a friend is currently writing, "The Fatal Frontier." It's a parody based on the premise, "What if Star Fleet was capitalist?"
 

Kaodi

Adventurer
How does stellar cartography actually work in Star Trek? The galaxy is tens of thousands of light years across. One way you might miss a fancy eight star system is that its current configuration is simply newer than the light you are receiving from its constituent stars.

Anyway - I too wonder if Soong is, in fact, somehow Lore.
 
Anyway - I too wonder if Soong is, in fact, somehow Lore.
I think I get it (if he is Lore): Lore took the Borg Queen's deal from First Contact. He got his android-ness replaced with flesh, and he figured out (mostly) how they did it. He regrets it now that he's aged (aging sucks) and he's been building offspring working his way up to fleshy ones (notice how Soji's siblings show a progression). He's using it to figure out how organic minds work compared to positronic ones. He wants Agnes to help put him back in an android body. A cool side-effect of the experiments regarding both types of minds, is Sutra (right?) learned the Vulcan mind-meld, but for synths.

Am I close? Will we find out next episode?
 

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