Star Wars games in the wake of RotS

[Captain Tagon]

It sure distracted me

Hey, the words of a golden plated robot. Not mine.

 

[Khorod]

Actually, I find the d20 SW rules to be a little to easy on the Darkside Corruption. You use a Dark Side Power, you get a Dark Side Point. Does not matter why.

I prefer the idea that Dark Side points might be given out for behavior, and on a Dark Side power use when you roll a '1' or a '20'. A '1' means you get a Dark Backfire, a '20' means too much tainted power flowed through your spirit.

In the end, it all comes out about the same, but it also means you can model the occasional careful graysider.

 

[Roudi]

I prefer the idea that Dark Side points might be given out for behavior

Actually, you DO gain Dark Side Points for "evil" behaviour. The Force chapter of the SWd20 Core Rulebook contains rough guidelines for the kind of activity that would net one a Dark Side Point. Gaining them certainly isn't limited to using Dark Side Force Powers or calling on the Dark Side when using a Force Point. Hell, even some neutral powers, like Force Strike, can net you a Dark Side Point if used a certain way.

Yoda defends against force lightning with his bare hands, doesn't he?

Sounds like Yoda used the Dissipate Energy feat, with the added ability of sending the "dissipated" energy back at it's target.

I do agree, though, that lightsabers ought to have some sort of defensive effect against Force Lightning (perhaps factoring in a Jedi's deflect bonuses?).

 

[Hatrel]

I ran a game that started in the EBS time and went through RotJ and beyond. The party was aligned with the Rebellion and the New Republic. However, they received a rumor of a new weapon that can create a Black Hole. The party was dispatched with a task force to stop this weapon. When the task force arrived there was a Imp Star Deuce waiting for them. It released a Grav well generator and launched two projectiles and jumped to hyperspace. The party in their transport, moved forward and was able to disable the gravwell and the task force was able to jump away. However they were too close to the projectiles and were unable to stop them. When the projectiles collided, they formed a small black hole that sucked the party in.

When they came to their senses, they were in the middle of a huge space battle. They noticed that the IFF's were showing Imperial and Rebel, not New Republic. The Rebel ships noticed the party's IFF, hailed them and brought them aboard a Mon Cal Cruiser. They drove off the Imps and then the wierd stuff began to happen.

The party realized that they were in an alternate reality. It seemed that the Tantive IV was destroyed instead of captured over Tattooine. Leia was killed and the Droids were never launched to the planet. This led to Luke going to the Imperial Academy and his name and skill captured the attention of Vader and Palpatine. The Emperor took Luke and began to teach him. Vader began to see the same path that he had traveled and this made him consider whether this was right.

Well, Vader abandoned the Emperor when Luke attempted to slay him to take his place. Eventually, Obi-Wan and Anakin met again, made their peace, and both joined the Rebellion. Obi-Wan also contacted Yoda and the three of them had been spearheading the Rebellion. Training those that were able to be trained, new Jedi were becoming stronger.

This also meant that Alderaan was still alive and well, as was the Death Star. The DS was a huge problem, but since the blueprints had never been released to the Rebels, they could not bring enough firepower against it to destroy it.

However, one of the party was a fanatical Luke worshipper, and had a copy of Luke's X-Wing footage of his shot on the Death Star. They shared this with Anakin and Obi-Wan and a plan was put into action.

They eventually found a way to recreate the black hole effect to take them back to the normal universe, though not before one of the more business minded of the group took a trip to Alderaan and brought a cargo hold ful of stuff to sell to the Alderaan refugees in their own timeline...

 

[teitan]

I seem to remember that the only voice redubbed was Boba Fett's. I can pop in the DVDs and check now, but I'm fairly certain the Stormies were left the same. I'm fond of the theory that SOME Stormies are clones.

Why?

Well, because the Clones grew at twice the normal rate, and by the time you get to the OT, they aren't being made anymore and the old batches are getting...well...old. There were a total of THREE batches of Clones to come out through the Clone Wars, those guys don't live long.

Technically, the difference in stats COULD be explained. If all Stormies ARE clones, they aren't necessarily all Clones of Jango Fett. Perhaps, by the time we get to the OT, the original genetic material is unusable, so there are new 'basic models'.


And yes, the timeperiod between Sith and A New Hope is ripe for an insanely large number of adventure ideas.

Why do the three batches that came out of the Clone wars HAVE to be all their is? Perhaps Sidious could have continued to produce Clones. The stats for Stormies were before Lucas made it known that Clonetroopers and Stormtroopers are the same, so it is very easily explained and EASILY retconned or you could just say that they began to emphasize different types of training as years went by to adapt to changing rebel fighting styles. Aside from that look at the different types of Clonetroopers, they aren't all the same and possess different training for different tasks. My only canon is George Lucas and when Lucas says that stormies are clones, well, they are clones and when they SOUND like Jango Fett...

Jason

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Why do the three batches that came out of the Clone wars HAVE to be all their is? Perhaps Sidious could have continued to produce Clones. The stats for Stormies were before Lucas made it known that Clonetroopers and Stormtroopers are the same, so it is very easily explained and EASILY retconned or you could just say that they began to emphasize different types of training as years went by to adapt to changing rebel fighting styles. Aside from that look at the different types of Clonetroopers, they aren't all the same and possess different training for different tasks. My only canon is George Lucas and when Lucas says that stormies are clones, well, they are clones and when they SOUND like Jango Fett...

Jason

They don't have to be the only batches.

However, the stats for Clones/Stormies were NOT written before the whole Stormtroopers are clones thing started up. So there MUST be a reason for the change. The best would be that the Rebellion Era Stormtroopers are NOT the same clones. Some of them may very well be clones, but of a different base other than Jango(who knows how long you can continue to clone off one source...).

I do my best to mix both EU and movie canon in my games. Hence, Stormtroopers are a MIX of Clones and recruits. This way, running my Imperial games, people get to have fun and play Stormies.

And the Stormtrooper's voices weren't changed for the DVDs. I just listened to the whole Tractor Beam scene with the two Stormies talking with one another while Obi-Wan does his thing. They still have the old voices. Its ONLY Boba Fett who's voice was redubbed.

 

[Breakdaddy]

I do agree, though, that lightsabers ought to have some sort of defensive effect against Force Lightning (perhaps factoring in a Jedi's deflect bonuses?).

Both of these things have been handled in on the wizards URL in the Jedi Counseling articles. You can check the Q&A on SWRPG's website for more.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

And the Stormtrooper's voices weren't changed for the DVDs. I just listened to the whole Tractor Beam scene with the two Stormies talking with one another while Obi-Wan does his thing. They still have the old voices. Its ONLY Boba Fett who's voice was redubbed.

Cool, that pretty much ends the subject with me then... Oh what about at Mos Eisley? That stormtrooper speaks a couple of lines also.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Cool, that pretty much ends the subject with me then... Oh what about at Mos Eisley? That stormtrooper speaks a couple of lines also.

Just checked it again...nope, no change in voice. "Move along" and all the other lines are still the original Stormtrooper voice.

Considering that Boba's voice was changed but not the Stormtroopers, that would say that either Stormies AREN'T clones or they use a different base.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Considering that Boba's voice was changed but not the Stormtroopers, that would say that either Stormies AREN'T clones or they use a different base.

IMHO, they're not clones... (possible spoilers read at your own risk.)

[sblock]
The Republic used clones originally cause they didn’t know they had them, only a few people new the order was placed and none of the Jedi did, but they used them cause they needed them and Palpatine had them created in hidden cause he would need them for the ruse that would be the clone wars and to maintain the “peace” immensity after he came to true power…

After that, with no active war and only skirmishes the cost of clones meant that he training everyday people would have to suffice. [/sblock]