billd91
Not your screen monkey (he/him)
Still the best of the prequel trilogy. Fight me!
Star Wars Reboot
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This also brings up - what exactly is the Force?
In the OT it was an energy field.
In The Last Jedi, Luke tells us it is an energy between all particles.
This is not just differing points of view. One can right, and the other wrong.
But what if it was something else entirely?
An entity local to the Star Wars galaxy that lends it powers to some, certain bloodlines? Perhaps it feeds on the psychic energy of death that it creates due to perpetual wars (Warp god anyone?) Could force abilities stop working outside the galaxy?
Perhaps force powers work universe wide? Perhaps what some believe are psychic powers are the force? Do other civilisations outside of the galaxy use the force too?
Maybe the Ones were actually Elohim (Godsend Agenda anyone?) from another galaxy?
Could super heroes exist? Do they use the force innately?
Can the force be channelled and used with weird / super science? Like with the Star Forge?
In the OT it was an energy field.
In The Last Jedi, Luke tells us it is an energy between all particles.
This is not just differing points of view. One can right, and the other wrong.
But what if it was something else entirely?
An entity local to the Star Wars galaxy that lends it powers to some, certain bloodlines? Perhaps it feeds on the psychic energy of death that it creates due to perpetual wars (Warp god anyone?) Could force abilities stop working outside the galaxy?
Perhaps force powers work universe wide? Perhaps what some believe are psychic powers are the force? Do other civilisations outside of the galaxy use the force too?
Maybe the Ones were actually Elohim (Godsend Agenda anyone?) from another galaxy?
Could super heroes exist? Do they use the force innately?
Can the force be channelled and used with weird / super science? Like with the Star Forge?
balthanon
Explorer
Personally, I'd go the opposite route of most here. Keep it as close to the original movies as possible and maybe even keep some of the later two trilogies aside from the elements that are pretty universally reviled-- adapt the best of the extended universe novels, possibly even crowdsource what constitutes "the best" and "the worst" or even analysis of entire scripts/novels. People know what to expect if we're trying to keep close to the original, so actually have the fans weigh in on what they want to see and how it should all fit together as well as rough plans for the movies. Hollywood writers "innovating and adapting" has ruined or at least cheapened some of the adaptations I've been looked forward to most, so keeping it simple to start would be the approach I'd follow.
For new content, maybe have it start out life as a "force vision" or something of that nature, which then has to be confirmed as canon and in some cases might even just be a fun excuse to play with "what if" scenarios. Possibly even open it to the public. Having an Extended Universe where a fanfic or fanfilm has a chance of graduating to canon and being professionally published could be kind of cool I think.
I feel like at this point, Star Wars isn’t anything anymore, every movie is a reboot. The IP is just, these are the dirty spaceships we’ll pay for minis of and tickets to see.
I guess I’m threadcrapping, because the last thing I want to see is someone doing Luke Skywalker again, but different. Fork him and everything that’s already been done, fans who want to see Spiderman reimagined yet again are weirdos.
if I had the rights to the universe I’d keep doing what they appear to be doing, find cool minor character, and do their backstory. And then, I’d find cool minor characters in my new shows/movies and do again. I would not try redo stuff I did wrong because fork it, only a few nerds care, I’d just keep making new stuff with new characters In the same style that mints money.
I guess I’m threadcrapping, because the last thing I want to see is someone doing Luke Skywalker again, but different. Fork him and everything that’s already been done, fans who want to see Spiderman reimagined yet again are weirdos.
if I had the rights to the universe I’d keep doing what they appear to be doing, find cool minor character, and do their backstory. And then, I’d find cool minor characters in my new shows/movies and do again. I would not try redo stuff I did wrong because fork it, only a few nerds care, I’d just keep making new stuff with new characters In the same style that mints money.
Ralif Redhammer
Legend
I'd start by buying a ton of antacids and deleting all my social media...
Then I'd mainline re-watching a ton of Kurasawa flicks. Start off with a Chanbara-based flick; maybe fuse together The Sword of Doom with The Force Unleashed. Start with a Sith apprentice seeking vengeance, then eventually redemption.
It'd be a thin line to walk though, starting with an antihero at first - the last thing I'd want is to create some edgelord idol.
Then I'd mainline re-watching a ton of Kurasawa flicks. Start off with a Chanbara-based flick; maybe fuse together The Sword of Doom with The Force Unleashed. Start with a Sith apprentice seeking vengeance, then eventually redemption.
It'd be a thin line to walk though, starting with an antihero at first - the last thing I'd want is to create some edgelord idol.
delericho
Legend
I'd start with a shot-by-shot remake of the first film, but with the genders switched - Lucy Skywalker is recruited by Jane Kenobi for a desperate last mission against the evil empire.
In the second film, however, I'd reveal that while the evil empire is indeed evil, the 'heroic' rebels are anything but. Then conclude the trilogy with Lucy taking out the heads of both factions, leaving the setting wide open for the RPG to run with it.
aramis erak
Legend
TPM's story is good; the execution is what sucked.
II and III, yeah, sucks.
billd91
Not your screen monkey (he/him)
The atrociousness of Jar Jar is an aspect of the bungled execution, particularly when you can treat him as <local alien eff-up>. Like so:
Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon meet <local alien eff-up> in the swamp.
<local alien eff-up> takes them to his hometown where they will ask for assistance.
Because hometown mayor wants to get rid of <local alien eff-up>, he sends the Jedi away with a vehicle
The full obnoxiousness of Jar Jar is in how <local alien eff-up> was implemented - poorly. He could have been done much better.
It wasn't so much bungled execution it was mainly that the film is for children.
And Anakin is annoying and nothing will change that - not even a rewrite.
In many ways the same is true for the next two movies too - terrible dialogue, with contradictions in the Clone Wars cgi series. The best thing is to keep the Clone Wars CGI series (not the terrible cartoon) which also shows that the Jedi can be bad asses.
The PT takes away from that, and makes them rather wimpy.
The Clone Wars gives Sidious an almost Witch like feel, reminiscent of those from Dathomir in some ways. Plus we have some rather neat lore in Star Wars Rebels.
Now The Last Jedi and Rise of the Skywalker show that force wielders can be really powerful in ways not seen in the previous movies.
To me you have to address what is happening in the Star Wars Galaxy, The Empire has fallen, the Rebels have taken over (or have they?). You would have to re-build the senate, build law and order, defend against outside foes. What happens with planets that do not want to go back to the old ways?
Can see a lot of plot hooks and shows for this type of outcome. First would be crime drama or political show, that is different from zone to zone of what was the Empire, you have the inner zone, the rural zone then the outer rim. Inner zone is the developed worlds, so you would have HUT Wars and Corporate Wars. The second zone would be holding on thinking everyone forgot about them, fighting of pirates and raiders. The Outer Rim, the wild wild west, no laws, no governments and might makes right.
I would place the show in between the rural zone and the outer rim. Have a fleet that is trying to keep everything together. Any Jedi would be Jack of all trades.
Can see a lot of plot hooks and shows for this type of outcome. First would be crime drama or political show, that is different from zone to zone of what was the Empire, you have the inner zone, the rural zone then the outer rim. Inner zone is the developed worlds, so you would have HUT Wars and Corporate Wars. The second zone would be holding on thinking everyone forgot about them, fighting of pirates and raiders. The Outer Rim, the wild wild west, no laws, no governments and might makes right.
I would place the show in between the rural zone and the outer rim. Have a fleet that is trying to keep everything together. Any Jedi would be Jack of all trades.
innerdude
Legend
The strongest overarching theme of Star Wars, in my mind, speaks to the ways in which those in power choose to wield it.
So for me, the backdrop of the Star Wars Galaxy is most interesting when it addresses those issues.
I've long felt that the greatest misstep of Eps. VII, VIII, and IX was that they failed to tackle this new theme just waiting to be explored----you were the scrappy rebels, but now you've won. How do you exercise power in ways that are restrained, yet still maintain order, without becoming the thing you've just defeated?
Rehashing the same basic storyline and themes as the original trilogy in VII-IX was such a massive waste.
So for me, the backdrop of the Star Wars Galaxy is most interesting when it addresses those issues.
I've long felt that the greatest misstep of Eps. VII, VIII, and IX was that they failed to tackle this new theme just waiting to be explored----you were the scrappy rebels, but now you've won. How do you exercise power in ways that are restrained, yet still maintain order, without becoming the thing you've just defeated?
Rehashing the same basic storyline and themes as the original trilogy in VII-IX was such a massive waste.
Add to my post...
Think the Jedi would become hidden, you would have them, but any large group will move underground to re-build their numbers as many planets would see them as the reason the empire fell. Treat them like a secret society. They may never become the power they once were, much like the Knight Templar.
Think the Jedi would become hidden, you would have them, but any large group will move underground to re-build their numbers as many planets would see them as the reason the empire fell. Treat them like a secret society. They may never become the power they once were, much like the Knight Templar.
GreyLord
Legend
I think I'd actually NOT cancel or delete anything. I'd make a multiple worlds idea, with at least two or three standard universes. The First universe would be Lucas's Film Universe and what HE considered authentic canon in his own words at various times (which does NOT include the Holiday Special, but does, if I recall, include the Radio Dramas and his scripts).
The Second universe would be the original EU done and approved by George Lucas (as well as occasionally his input, though his input got more and more involved the later in the EU you get, until Legacy of the Force had entire plotlines and ideas from him involved with it).
The Third universe would be the Disney Universe they've created currently.
Than, if I thought my own ideas might sell (the others I imagine would sell better than a whole new idea. Tossing out the old usually goes over as well as a cold wet rag to the face when one is in a deep sleep in bed, as the 4e Forgotten Realms idea shows), I'd probably start with a new take on the whole thing starting at 25,000 years before Yavin, but with standard ideas of Star Wars (the Force, establishing the proto-jedi, proto-sith...etc).
The Second universe would be the original EU done and approved by George Lucas (as well as occasionally his input, though his input got more and more involved the later in the EU you get, until Legacy of the Force had entire plotlines and ideas from him involved with it).
The Third universe would be the Disney Universe they've created currently.
Than, if I thought my own ideas might sell (the others I imagine would sell better than a whole new idea. Tossing out the old usually goes over as well as a cold wet rag to the face when one is in a deep sleep in bed, as the 4e Forgotten Realms idea shows), I'd probably start with a new take on the whole thing starting at 25,000 years before Yavin, but with standard ideas of Star Wars (the Force, establishing the proto-jedi, proto-sith...etc).
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