Spoilers Star Wars: The Acolyte [Spoilers]

[Zardnaar]

So this thread brought me back to an interest in tropes and using them for gaming as I mentioned a couple pages back, but one i forgot till the discussion of "Jedi and Order" starring Lenny Brisco as a tough but lovable master, was that of sitcom.

At one point I was trying to figure out the tropes for a sitcom specifically for Star Wars. I may have to revisit this concept if nothing more than for my own entertainment.

It's not exactly a new concept. Old legends had Coruscant Nights type cringe investigation. Not sure if a jedi joined them.

There was also Corellion Security I think the Horns joined them iirc (I found Corran Horn boring so didn't pay much attention).

 

[pukunui]

It's not exactly a new concept. Old legends had Coruscant Nights type cringe investigation. Not sure if a jedi joined them.

There was also Corellion Security I think the Horns joined them iirc (I found Corran Horn boring so didn't pay much attention).

It puts me in mind of the Clone Wars episodes where Plo Koon and Ahsoka went investigating in the seedier underparts of Coruscant. Or even just Anakin and Obi-Wan hunting Jango Fett on Coruscant in Attack of the Clones.

Din and Bo-Katan aren't Jedi, but I enjoyed the "buddy cop" episode where they were hunting down the Separatist messing with the droids in Jack Black and Lizzo's utopian society.

A Star Wars movie or mini-series like that could be fun. If it was going to be a longer-running series, I'd want more variety. Someone else mentioned The X-Files, which I think would be a good format - a mix of standalone "monster of the week" stories and interconnected "mythology" stories that build toward something big (so long as it stuck the landing, which The X-Files did not do.)

he first two seasons of The Mandalorian were a bit like that but with more narrative throughput - that is, the standalone "monster of the week" episodes usually occurred while Din was traveling between major plot points (like when he crash landed on the ice planet with the spiders, he was in the process of taking that lady whose eggs Grogu kept eating to the water planet where he met Bo-Katan).

 

[Zardnaar]

It puts me in mind of the Clone Wars episodes where Plo Koon and Ahsoka went investigating in the seedier underparts of Coruscant. Or even just Anakin and Obi-Wan hunting Jango Fett on Coruscant in Attack of the Clones.

Din and Bo-Katan aren't Jedi, but I enjoyed the "buddy cop" episode where they were hunting down the Separatist messing with the droids in Jack Black and Lizzo's utopian society.

A Star Wars movie or mini-series like that could be fun. If it was going to be a longer-running series, I'd want more variety. Someone else mentioned The X-Files, which I think would be a good format - a mix of standalone "monster of the week" stories and interconnected "mythology" stories that build toward something big (so long as it stuck the landing, which The X-Files did not do.)

he first two seasons of The Mandalorian were a bit like that but with more narrative throughput - that is, the standalone "monster of the week" episodes usually occurred while Din was traveling between major plot points (like when he crash landed on the ice planet with the spiders, he was in the process of taking that lady whose eggs Grogu kept eating to the water planet where he met Bo-Katan).

Yup big galaxy you can blend in various bits into Star Wars. Elements of horror, murder mystery, Sci fi etc.

My limits more to over the top.

 

[pukunui]

Yup big galaxy you can blend in various bits into Star Wars. Elements of horror, murder mystery, Sci fi etc.

Precisely!

My limits more to over the top.

Yes. The Tartakovsky Clone Wars series is a good example of that.

 

[Zardnaar]

Precisely!


Yes. The Tartakovsky Clone Wars series is a good example of that.

My limits something like Yoda in AotC or an individual force lightning/storm a fleet. Heavy CGI in a lightsaber duel.

Blowing up a star is another example.

A group of force users in a ritual bit more open to massive effects.

 

[pukunui]

My limits something like Yoda in AotC or an individual force lightning/storm a fleet. Heavy CGI in a lightsaber duel.

Blowing up a star is another example.

A group of force users in a ritual bit more open to massive effects.

I was thinking specifically of Mace Windu Force jumping vast distances and taking out whole platoons of battle droids with a single Force push and the like. Fun to watch but very over the top in terms of power levels.

 

[Zardnaar]

I was thinking specifically of Mace Windu Force jumping vast distances and taking out whole platoons of battle droids with a single Force push and the like. Fun to watch but very over the top in terms of power levels.

I can't remember. I think I watched sone of them at least as I remember Durfe for example. And mace beating on battledrouds bare handed.

Don't recall enjoying it very much.

Big problem with over the top is it rapidly leads to "how do you top this"

Heavy CGI isn't going to age well either. RotJ is still one of the best fights because of the emotion and stakes involved.

Duel of fates looks a bit t much like choreographed dancing while RotS heavy CGI has aged badly. YMMV.

Acolyte was a lot more grounded.

Anyway been saying for a while the real Sith lords a female. Notice Korril encouraging Mae to use her anger.

Qimir was captain obvious.

 

[Older Beholder]

I read recently that Yord Fandar was based on a character Headland played in a Star Wars ttrpg.

 

[pukunui]

I just recently finished watching the final season of Star Trek: Discovery and am only now watching Star Trek: Picard for the first time, and it's got me comparing Starfleet and the Jedi Order. These are my initial thoughts so they're still a bit rough around the edges.

Starfleet is an organization with a noble purpose. There are bad actors within Starfleet (including spies and other infiltrators), and sometimes its leaders make the wrong call, but overall the organization is a positive influence with a set of strong core values. They are generally a force for good in the galaxy.

The Jedi Order played a similar role to Starfleet in the Old Republic. However, since the prequels onwards, the organization has been portrayed as fundamentally wrong / misguided in both its practices and its core values ... to the point that one feels that they not only deserved to fall but perhaps even needed to in order that something better could rise from the ashes.

That idea, in and of itself, would have been fine ... but what we got instead was Luke trying to rebuild the old Jedi Order only to have it blow up in his face. I get the impression that Disney is now setting Rey up to be the builder of a new and improved Jedi Order, and I hope they will let her succeed. I think we could all really do with a version of the Jedi Order that is more like Starfleet and is truly a force for good. (They can still have bad actors and infiltrators and such; but I want a Jedi Order that is not "wrong" on a fundamental level.)

EDIT: Thinking about it some more, similar comparisons can be made between the Federation and the Republic. The Federation is generally portrayed in a positive light. Even in Discovery's later seasons, where we see a Federation that has suffered some major setbacks, it ultimately recovers due to its strong underlying principles. The Old Republic, meanwhile, is portrayed as irredeemably corrupt in the prequels, while the post-OT New Republic is shown to be doomed from the start and ultimately gets vaporized.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well not a disaster of an ending but a bit unsatisfying. Sets up a potential season 2 which is almost required.