Star Wars: Was the “other Skywalker” Yoda spoke of really Leia?

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Leia using the force wasn't a problem. Her flying in space scene was. Mary Poppins in space and it looked bad/goofy.

That wasn't flying ... it was falling without style!

 

[Zardnaar]

In Legends it was explained that after all that happened between the Jedi and the Sith, it was best to keep Leia's force abilities a secret.

After all the years of propaganda against the Jedi made by the Empire, having a Jedi taking such a prominent role in the new Republic's government was not something most people would accept.

It was also quiet in the new canon. She got outted as Vader's daughter as a political hit job in the new one.

The Sith being public knowledge wasn't really known about but a line in the movie references it.

Apparently be Palpatine broadcast the Sith thing in Minecraft.

They're putting a lot off stuff outside the movies that should probably be in them like Rey downloading Kylos force training.

Makes sense in the new canon, not so much onscreen.

 

[Zardnaar]

That wasn't flying ... it was falling without style!

Heh I just don't think it was a great visual.

I expected her to have powers, some force powers are silly though like Palpatine force lightning the ships. A bit over the top IMHO.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Tomato, tomahto.

It matters.

Leia using the force wasn't a problem. Her flying in space scene was. Mary Poppins in space and it looked bad/goofy.

It looked great, IMO, and was very obviously not flying.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

The thousandth time? Blimey!

I‘d counter that with birds don’t fly. It’s a real simple use of what the natures call Flap Wings. I don’t really see what the propulsion method has to do with it.

I mean, does the word fly really matter so much in this conversation that it needs refuting a thousand times?

Yes. It isn’t flight. She couldn’t do it in planetary gravity.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Heh I just don't think it was a great visual.

I expected her to have powers, some force powers are silly though like Palpatine force lightning the ships. A bit over the top IMHO.

Given her personality I would have expected more mental stuff. Empathize, affect emotions, help her be a more persuasive leader, that sort of thing.

I'm disappointed that the Force has gone from something very subtle in the original movie to something completely over the top. As a result, at this point I prefer the Star Wars stories that don't have Force users or Jedi in them.

I gagged when I saw the Mary Poppins bit in the theater ... but then the movie had been going downhill for me since opening with a cell phone gag. So much potential ...

 

[Zardnaar]

Given her personality I would have expected more mental stuff. Empathize, affect emotions, help her be a more persuasive leader, that sort of thing.

I'm disappointed that the Force has gone from something very subtle in the original movie to something completely over the top. As a result, at this point I prefer the Star Wars stories that don't have Force users or Jedi in them.

I gagged when I saw the Mary Poppins bit in the theater ... but then the movie had been going downhill for me since opening with a cell phone gag. So much potential ...

Cell phone gag plus a your momma joke.

Humor has a place in Star Wars but they over do it in the new trilogy.

Same with fan service. They went with more is better, didn't work out IMHO.

 

[ccs]

Thank you.

For the thousandth time, she didn’t fly. It’s a real simple use of what the RPGs call Move Object.

Sure, to someone who plays these games.

To the vast majority of the audience watching it though? If it looks like flying, then it's flying.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Sure, to someone who plays these games.

To the vast majority of the audience watching it though? If it looks like flying, then it's flying.

It looks like Luke pulling the lightsaber to his hand, or Vader throwing industrial components at Luke in the Bespin fight. It’s very clearly basic telekinesis.

 

[Zardnaar]

It looks like Luke pulling the lightsaber to his hand, or Vader throwing industrial components at Luke in the Bespin fight. It’s very clearly basic telekinesis.

Not that clear, it does look like flying. Plus she's also surviving in space.

Neither one is to far out of left field for Jedi powers, I thought the CGI looked bad. OT trilogy the Jedi were better than average could do impossible things.

ST they've kinda turned them into superheroes. If you prefer superheroes that's fine but it's very key difference IMHO.