Truth Seeker
Adventurer
Earth
The Ancient communication stones are used to allow a few crewmembers' consciousnesses to return to Earth to go over a risky plan that could bring the crew home.
STARGATE UNIVERSE #7:Earth/Season 1/2009
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BrooklynKnight
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Wow
Yea, just wow. These characters just dont come anywhere close to the moral standards that Oniel and Carter had. The issue was only brushed upon, but these guys....holy crap.
By the end of this episode I think I can say I finally am starting to LIKE Rush. And Telford is 100% in my "hated characters" bucket list.
Orius
Unrepentant DM Supremacist
Yeah, Telford is a jerk. He's got too many issues with Young being in command, and sticking Greer in a makeshift brig seemed more of a power trip than anything else. Possbily if O'Neil is on the ball here, he'll make sure Telford doesn't access the stones, though Telford is supposed to be a regular I guess, so who knows.
I think they need to establish some protocols on how people are supposed to use the bodies they borrow. Whoever Chloe had is not going to appreciate that hangover. And the Young-Telford swap was certainly awkward. Eli however, seemed to take it fairly well all things considered.
I think they need to establish some protocols on how people are supposed to use the bodies they borrow. Whoever Chloe had is not going to appreciate that hangover. And the Young-Telford swap was certainly awkward. Eli however, seemed to take it fairly well all things considered.
Fast Learner
First Post
The sex thing was particularly inappropriate. Let's assume they used a condom: it's still possible that you'd make someone else be a father (or mother, in a different scenario) without permission. Or, say, contract AIDS. Super uncool.
Dire Bare
Legend
Heh, well the last scene with Telford at Young's ex-wife's door . . . perhaps Young's inappropriate use of Telford's body will come back to haunt him.
Besides, don't forget the situation, people stranded across the universe and only able to come home briefly in someone else's body . . . yeah, people are going to make emotional decisions rather than appropriate ones.
I don't condone Young's use of Telford's body, but I love the writing and the story! Good people often do foolish things in real life all the time, good drama reflects that.
YourSwordIsMine
First Post
Whats with the scrub scientists they sent by way of stone? Where is Dr. McKaye? He'd have them home by now... or at least half the ship fixed by the end of the episode...
LightPhoenix
First Post
Overall, I thought the episode was mostly garbage. There were some decent moments, and I have to admit Chloe's drunken "I'm ****ing useless" speech" was at least truthful. I'll explain it more completely when I have a moment, but my biggest gripe is the the episode raised all these ethical questions, but never addressed them, let alone attempted to answer any of them. It was made worse by the all too short denouement, where there was an end to the story that didn't answer any of those questions while clearly coming to a conclusion (ie, Destiny crew much more in control of body-switching now).
Dr. M. came down with plot sickness*.
(*plot sickness = sickness that takes him out of the action for the purposes of not breaking the plot)
Dire Bare
Legend
Interesting, that's why I liked the episode. Rarely, in real life, are ethical questions such as these "answered" or "properly addressed".
In a more traditional, episodic approach, like the first two Stargate shows, each episode would have an "A" plot, maybe a "B" plot that wraps up nicely by the end of the episode. But that's not the storytelling style used in this Stargate!
The plot points in this episode that are the "A" plot are that the folks at home in the Pentagon no longer trust Young's leadership and also don't trust Rush. In addition, they seem to have reasons unstated for bringing home the crew NOW as opposed to "later when it can be done safely". This isn't a new theme in the show, and it wasn't "answered" or wrapped up nicely with a bow . . . but the Pentagon's usurpation of Young's command with Telford brought it to a head and resulted in Young taking safeguards to prevent a future occurence . . . in defiance of Pentagon leadership, including O'Neil.
We have two related "B" plots with Young's relationship with his ex-wife, and the addition of Telford to the sordid mix, and Eli and Chloe's relationship. Both relationships have events happen that "move them forward", but certainly don't "answer" them.
And I love it!
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