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CSR Dialog
I've adjusted my name in the dialogs so that Volabit doesn't beat me up. The first question is at the bottom, reading up.
There, now I can cite a source that says, "Wizards is working on errata for Stealth, and until then it's up to the DM to decide how to handle this situation. In my campaign, it will not be easier to sneak attack from range than melee. I really don't care what you do in yours, nor will I tell you that you're wrong, regardless of your decision.
"Your" refers to anyone mentioning how they will run it.
I've adjusted my name in the dialogs so that Volabit doesn't beat me up. The first question is at the bottom, reading up.
WotC CSR Dialog said:Greetings,
Thanks for the great feedback! We’ve passed this along to the good folks that make the games and hopefully we’ll see some errata covering this situation soon. Until then, it is up to your Dungeon Master to determine how he/she wants to handle this particular situation in their campaign.
Tony
Customer Service Representative
Wizards of the Coast
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Customer (Jason ????) 06/12/2008 07:04 PM
Doesn't this mean it's easier to attain combat advantage from range than in melee? What incentive does a rogue have to go into melee beyond roleplay reasons? I mean if he can just stand in the second rank (gaining cover from allies) and sneak attack every round (at +11 stealth at first level, his odds are really good), why would he risk entering melee?
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Response (Support Agent) 06/11/2008 04:50 PM
Jason,
You can make a stealth check even with normal cover or concealment.
Paul
Customer Service Representative
Wizards of the Coast
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Customer (Jason ????) 06/11/2008 04:26 PM
Thanks for the prompt response, I just need one quick clarification:
Are you saying that even with *normal* cover or concealment (not total) you can attempt to hide again? If that's true, then this generates a ridiculous amount of Stealth checks, as there is no reason to NOT make a stealth check when you have cover/concealment.
Because Stealth has the specific wording--'You AVOID notice...' (emphasis mine) this is why I was hoping that it doesn't make you hidden again once you have been spotted.
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Response (Support Agent) 06/11/2008 08:15 AM
Jason,
Thank you for writing.
You are correct. If you wish to hide after being noticed, you would in fact have to make a bluff/stealth check or find cover or concealment.
Paul
Customer Service Representative
Wizards of the Coast
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Customer (Jason ????) 06/10/2008 05:32 PM
A successful Stealth roll result reads: "You avoid notice, unheard and hidden from view. If you later attack or shout, you're no longer hidden."
As the language specifically states "You AVOID notice," I interpret that to mean that Stealth only /keeps/ you hidden; it won't hide you if you've already been noticed. If you wish to hide after being noticed, you either need to succeed with Bluff (which specifically allows you to make a Stealth check to become hidden), or you need to achieve Total Cover or Total Concealment since you can't be seen then (thus hidden).
Have I interpreted this correct?
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Page Number: 188
Book Name: Player's Handbook 4E
There, now I can cite a source that says, "Wizards is working on errata for Stealth, and until then it's up to the DM to decide how to handle this situation. In my campaign, it will not be easier to sneak attack from range than melee. I really don't care what you do in yours, nor will I tell you that you're wrong, regardless of your decision.
"Your" refers to anyone mentioning how they will run it.