D&D 4E Tell us what you like and don't like about 4e

[Shadowslayer]

They did complicate magic item creation though. Gold costs are built up instead of based on 'sale price' because supply and demand effect price, the cost has to be built based on a power grid designed to handle about 80% of the magical effects and then a logorithmic calculation for the other 20% of effects. You then base XP cost on the square root of the final total cost multiplied by the inverse ratio of the characters current level and the caster level put into the magic item.

So in other words, they didn't change nothin!

Stupid, nasty, tricksy WOTC. Well, I'll get the core books for this version, but thats IT. Really. They've lost me as a customer if they think I'm actually gonna buy 5e. Enough is enough.

I'm so mad.

heh...I love this thread

 

[Elemental]

I like how they got rid of the wishy-washy politically correct gender-balanced language. I was totally unable to overlook that, and it meant I couldn't enjoy any other part of the game. Now they refer to characters as 'it', 'that dude' or 'this one guy', which is far better.

 

[reveal]

The Sage forgot the Cosmopoliton feat, that grants Bards a class skill so they can take Perform Monkey Dance as a class skill at first level.

But the eratta on page 39,000 column 4, section C, subsection 42 states, specifically, that the Bard cannot take Perform(monkey dance) until he purchases a monkey, which can only be found in a remote area in Eberron, being the default setting, which only clerics of the god KC have access to. I'm gonna have to go with the eratta on this one.

 

[Ghostwind]

Personally, I can't wait for the Fiendish Tax Collector prestige class.

That is SO begging to be written up as a real PrC and released on April 14th of next year.

Bards still suck.

Did you overlook the new bovine racial class? They were specifically designed to empower the bard class and make them the latest in powerlevel munchkinism. If you recall, Wizards introduced that concept in the final 3.5 release, Power Characters and Game Mastery. The only problem I had with the race was the illustration they chose. That image of the bovine dominatrix with the spiked collar and pierced udder teats will give me nightmares. You can certainly tell that Anthony Valterra is working for Wizards again.

 

[Shade]

The only problem I had with the race was the illustration they chose. That image of the bovine dominatrix with the spiked collar and pierced udder teats will give me nightmares. You can certainly tell that Anthony Valterra is working for Wizards again.

Diet coke burns when it comes out your nose.

 

[reveal]

Did you overlook the new bovine racial class? They were specifically designed to empower the bard class and make them the latest in powerlevel munchkinism. If you recall, Wizards introduced that concept in the final 3.5 release, Power Characters and Game Mastery. The only problem I had with the race was the illustration they chose. That image of the bovine dominatrix with the spiked collar and pierced udder teats will give me nightmares. You can certainly tell that Anthony Valterra is working for Wizards again.

I probably did. Hell, considering there are now 4 volumes to the DMG and 22 volumes to the PHB, I'm having a hard enough time just getting the books to the game.

 

[Shade]

I probably did. Hell, considering there are now 4 volumes to the DMG and 22 volumes to the PHB, I'm having a hard enough time just getting the books to the game.

You need to get the new Core Rules Shuffle. Download just the rules you need from WOTC's site (for a small monthly fee). Best of all, you can have it randomly spew forth rules, which is great for random encounters, wild magic, and wandering damage.

 

[reveal]

You need to get the new Core Rules Shuffle. Download just the rules you need from WOTC's site (for a small monthly fee). Best of all, you can have it randomly spew forth rules, which is great for random encounters, wild magic, and wandering damage.

I almost got that, but then I remembered the "St Patrick's Day Massacre" Wizards led against CMP and I just couldn't do it. Poor codemonkeys...

 

[Michel]

But they did bring back the Piercer...

 

[Ghostwind]

I almost got that, but then I remembered the "St Patrick's Day Massacre" Wizards led against CMP and I just couldn't do it. Poor codemonkeys...

Yeah, but the simians got their ultimate revenge with e-Tools 5.0. Everytime you load it, it flings virtual poo at you until your monitor fries.