The point being lost from the original comic that the Joker's theory is completely wrong
As you go with Douglas, you start to switch from "That was a violent overreaction but I kind of understand being angry" (shopkeeper) to "I hope he gets arrested or shot" not counting the neo-naziThe thing about the whole "Films People Miss the Point Of By Rooting for the Villain Protagonist" thing is that I think it often critically leaves out the actual intentions of the filmmaker. I'm not convinced that we weren't supposed to be rooting for Michael Douglas, or the Joker, or Tyler Durden*... I sure as hell don't trust Todd freaking Phillips with that kind of nuance, at a minimum. "Sociopathic White Man" was basically the action hero of the 70's (in case you thought Dirty Harry supposed to be sensible and mild-mannered).
Like, viewed through today's lens, yes, absolutely, all of these men and horrible, privileged, murderous sociopaths, but for some of these films I don't think the problem is "You got the wrong lesson from this movie"; it's more "this movie is just terrible."
*film version only, the book is pretty clear about how it feels
What's funny is that the kid pointed out to him how to work it, (kid learned from tv)I mean yeah, its over the top, unless I'm misremembering he fires off a bazooka...but I think yeah its Jokers one bad day.
The point being lost from the original comic that the Joker's theory is completely wrong
He doesn't get the bazooka till near the end, but he does suicide by cop when he finally fully realizes what he's become.I dont think running around with a bazooka is exactly correct, and I'm pretty sure the end of falling down, hes still seen as someone who's going to jail/wrong? Its been a long time.
He doesn't get the bazooka till near the end, but he does suicide by cop when he finally fully realizes what he's become.
There are moments when we're "supposedly" able to identify with him like the street that's being worked on.Then uhh yeah I dont think he would be seen as the good guy. lol
I like how it starts numbering the clock face correctly, but gives up and just sort of mumble-mumbles after three... but then swoops in with a slam-dunk when it gets to twelve.
the clock keeps track of some seconds lolI like how it starts numbering the clock face correctly, but gives up and just sort of mumble-mumbles after three... but then swoops in with a slam-dunk when it gets to twelve.
...which, to be fair, still makes it better than I am at Roman numerals.
Which flew over a lot of peoples' heads. I remember the reports of how many American audiences were applauding him at every fresh outburst, pretty much to the bitter end.There are moments when we're "supposedly" able to identify with him like the street that's being worked on.
But depending on how you view him, Foster is either a very dark Anti-Hero version of the Working-Class Hero trope or a straight deconstruction. While he is an educated man, he made his bones as an aerospace engineer working for a paycheck rather than a scientist or an academic. When he snaps after being laid off, he is the Angry White Man personified, raging at a society that left him and others like him behind and treading a very dark path that leaves nothing but destruction. For every cogent point he raises about the world he, the other characters, and the viewer live in, he then proceeds to cast a very dark shadow over it through his increasingly horrifying actions and his pettier and more questionable concerns.