The Lords of the Nine Hells
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Voadam
Legend
Heh, I didn't feel more up to it than thinking of sources to look up.BOZ said:that's a bit much for me, but anyone else can feel free to have a go at it.
1e Monster Manual, Deities and Demigods, Manual of the Planes, World of Greyhawk Campaign Setting(?)
2e Legends and Lore, Monster Mythology, Planes of Law, Faiths and Avatars, Powers and Pantheons, Demihuman Deities(?) Forgotten Realms Adventures(?), Greyhawk Adventures(?)
Shemeska
Adventurer
Voadam said:
Add 2e 'On Hallowed Ground', 'Planes of Law', 'Hellbound: The Blood War', and 'Fires of Dis'.
And 3e has Fiendish Codex II and that's about it*
*3e D&DG doesn't count because it doesn't present any of its gods within the context of their presence in the D&D cosmology except for the greyhawk gods
Voadam
Legend
Does the 3e MotP not have anything? I don't own it so I'm not familiar with it.
Oh and if you look above I did include Planes of Law, but thanks for the other references.
Fiendish Codex II I'm just reading the beginning right now and some stuff on the devils I'm using, does it have more than the reference in the beginning to gods agents looking for souls (I think the reference was to an aspect of Hextor bargaining with a devil as an example)?
Oh and if you look above I did include Planes of Law, but thanks for the other references.
Fiendish Codex II I'm just reading the beginning right now and some stuff on the devils I'm using, does it have more than the reference in the beginning to gods agents looking for souls (I think the reference was to an aspect of Hextor bargaining with a devil as an example)?
Baron Opal
First Post
hamishspence said:
Not only could that pre-date the draedens, the draedens could be the entities that came through the gate! That was may be why they resisted so strongly the primordial entities. They had just broken down the local reality to bite-sized bits, and more entities show up to crash the party.
Shemeska
Adventurer
hamishspence said:
Elder Elves =! LeShay.
The elder elves (of Far Realms/'Gates of Firestorm Peak' fame) were as far as anyone knows, just an ancient race of elves on the prime material. And that's the important part there, that they created their accidental gate to the Far Realm on the Prime. That puts an age limit on that right there, because the Prime and anything native to it, are relative n00bs compared to the earliest forms of the Outer planes, inner planes, etc.
The LeShay, assuming that their claims are correct, would have been from an earlier iteration of the multiverse, or another multiverse entirely, or through an Ether Gap perhaps they came from a collapsed timeline folded back into the mainline chronology. We don't know given that there's so little about them. And even if they came from an earlier version of the Great Wheel, we don't know at what point they entered into the new version. Time is funky when you think about something "before" a starting point of time, but it's not necessarily solid footing to claim that the LeShay are "older" than certain things in the multiverse or not.
From Stormwrack, page 157:
"Scyllans are descendants of the fabulous Scylla, an ancient fiendish sea monster (some say archdevil) with six snaky heads. Today, these lesser fiends primarily inhabit the frozen ocean of Stygia in the Nine Hells of Baator..."
What do you think, should Scylla be part of the history of the archdevils? Perhaps Levistus's predecessor?
"Scyllans are descendants of the fabulous Scylla, an ancient fiendish sea monster (some say archdevil) with six snaky heads. Today, these lesser fiends primarily inhabit the frozen ocean of Stygia in the Nine Hells of Baator..."
What do you think, should Scylla be part of the history of the archdevils? Perhaps Levistus's predecessor?
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