The mandalorian [Spoilers]

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Yeah, I found the 'take off the helmet' thing so contrived each time it happened (both for the NPC originally who then basically forgot to put it back on, and for Mando later on).

And what's the point of the facial scan if it can just scan anyone's face?

Maybe (I'm stretching my head canon here) it was a Clone wars Republic era scanner, and it was designed to stop Confederation of IS Droids accessing the data.

Did like the character development for the NPC. And for Mando to choose Grogu over the Creed.
 

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Yeah, I found the 'take off the helmet' thing so contrived each time it happened (both for the NPC originally who then basically forgot to put it back on, and for Mando later on).

And what's the point of the facial scan if it can just scan anyone's face?

I don't think it does. Which is why that scene is important. It's not a throw away scene just to reveal his face. We were clearly told that it would only recognize old imperial faces, and we weren't told that for nothing. That scene was a set up for a reveal sometime down the road about Mando's history.
 

I don't think it does. Which is why that scene is important. It's not a throw away scene just to reveal his face. We were clearly told that it would only recognize old imperial faces, and we weren't told that for nothing. That scene was a set up for a reveal sometime down the road about Mando's history.
We weren't told anything about what it would recognise. We didn't even know it did facial scanning until they got to it. What we were told is that people get gene-scanned entering the facility, and if their scan matches a known Republic soldier (such as Cara Dune) that would be bad. And Boba Fett was worried that people would recognise his face, because he shares it with all the clone troopers, who were all mustered out of the Empire long ago.
 

It's only been two short-ish seasons, and they've had loads of things come back around already. The bounty hunter droid, Boba Fett, Mayfield, all sorts of things have been set up in earlier episodes that have paid off later.

Those are call backs. When I talk about things coming around, I am refering to proper plot set up and pay off. For example, a few episodes ago we had a secret imperial base hidden in a lava trench, which then doesn't have a pay off. Or this episode we have a bunch of aliens attacking the imperial convoy, which are then not heard of again for the rest of the episode. They could have written the episode in a way where all of these elements come full circle at the end of the episode. I know each episode is only 30 mins long, but so is every episode of Cobra Kai, and that show has not even half the budget of the Mandalorian, and yet that show is able to do it, because their writers give a damn.

Jon Favreau does much of the writing. Clearly he is incompetent and they should fire him because you think it’s terrible.

OR

He is highly acclaimed, is getting credit for saving the Star Wars universe after the heavily criticized movies, a very good writer, and you’re just mistaken about your assumptions.

One of those things...

Oh? I had no idea he was highly acclaimed! By all means, I retract all my criticism of the show's disappointing writing, because surely if everyone holds him in high regard, he is above any criticism, and I should worship every turd he blesses us with!
 
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This I mean how dare they use popular characters like Ahsoka, Thrawn, Fett well.

Complete failure to subvert my expectations!!!!
Ahsoka and Fett anyway. Thrawn is just a name so far. We don't know that they will do him well. Personally, I hope they bring Tinothy Zahn in to write the Thrawn portions.
 

Oh? I had no idea he was highly acclaimed! By all means, I retract all my criticism of the show's disappointing writing, because surely if everyone holds him in high regard, he is above any criticism, and I should worship every turd he blesses us with!

Sarcasm aside, what I was implying is that you're coming off as one of "those guys". Armchair quarterbacks who sit there and complain about how Neil Peart was a crappy songwriter and how you could do better.

Like it or not, Favreau (and Feloni) is getting a lot of credit for the good work he's doing, and rightfully so. Sure, you can criticize him, but be prepared to have people react to your criticism much the same as any armchair quarterback with no resume themselves talking about how they can do it better than the people who are actually really good at it.
 

Sarcasm aside, what I was implying is that you're coming off as one of "those guys". Armchair quarterbacks who sit there and complain about how Neil Peart was a crappy songwriter and how you could do better.

I never said the writers were bad writers. What I am saying is that the writing is noticeably weak, and I am wondering why that is, given how important this show clearly is to Disney+. If you ignore for just a second the heaps of praise that this show is getting, and look for the few people critical of the show (on IMDB for example), you will notice a common trend; They all criticize the writing.

Just because a lot of people praise the show, does not mean they are right. When the Star Wars prequels were released, they were highly praised as well. It is only later that people's enthusiasm settled down, and they came to acknowledge the many flaws that some had pointed out since the start.

Like it or not, Favreau (and Feloni) is getting a lot of credit for the good work he's doing, and rightfully so. Sure, you can criticize him, but be prepared to have people react to your criticism much the same as any armchair quarterback with no resume themselves talking about how they can do it better than the people who are actually really good at it.

He deserves credit for making a Star Wars show that looks and feels like Star Wars. He does not however deserve praise for the writing. Like I said, I am not a script writer. I have never written a book, nor written a script for a movie or tv show. However, I do write plots (as I presume most DM's do for their D&D campaigns). I can tell when a plot is well written, and when it is not. There are certain basics that are important for writing a tv episode, such as using your time efficiently, and having all things come to a full circle at the end.

If we use the previous episode as an example, it feels like the writers had two ideas:

-They wanted an action scene on a transport
-They wanted Mando to break his creed and take off his helmet

However, they did not know to make all of these elements work together, and make it work as part of the season arc. They came up with a contrived way for Mando to take off his helmet, and never really brought it all together. This script needed someone else to 'punch it up'. It feels like a first draft, as many episodes of this show do.

No matter how much you like this show, surely you can acknowledge some of what I'm saying here? Surely we both watched the same episode? Surely you had the same feeling that Mando took off his helmet for contrived reasons, and that details that were introduced early in the episode, such as the rebels attacking the convoy, had no impact on the rest of the episode? A good writer would have brought this all full circle.
 


Yeah, I found the 'take off the helmet' thing so contrived each time it happened (both for the NPC originally who then basically forgot to put it back on, and for Mando later on).

And what's the point of the facial scan if it can just scan anyone's face?

Maybe (I'm stretching my head canon here) it was a Clone wars Republic era scanner, and it was designed to stop Confederation of IS Droids accessing the data.

Did like the character development for the NPC. And for Mando to choose Grogu over the Creed.
EDIT: Oops, I meant to reply to @MarkB!

We weren't told anything about what it would recognise. We didn't even know it did facial scanning until they got to it. What we were told is that people get gene-scanned entering the facility, and if their scan matches a known Republic soldier (such as Cara Dune) that would be bad. And Boba Fett was worried that people would recognise his face, because he shares it with all the clone troopers, who were all mustered out of the Empire long ago.

I'll have to watch the episode again, but I'm pretty sure after Mayfield saw his old CO and got cold feet . . . he told Mando that he had to be the one to access the terminal, because it would require a face scan.

So, when Mando walked over to the terminal anyway and tried to access with his helmet . . . I was confused. When he took off his helmet, and the scan worked . . . I was even more confused. I assumed the scan was a bio-password . . . and now I'm not sure the point of the facial scan.

I thought, maybe there's some reason for Mando's face to be in the imperial database and unlock the terminal access . . . .
 

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