The mandalorian [Spoilers]

[Zardnaar]

I also think we got a reference to the First Order in there during the talk in the officer's mess, when the officer said something to the effect of in the end everyone wants order.

Could also be a throwback to season one. What's his face complaining about everything falling apart.

 

[Morrus]

I also think we got a reference to the First Order in there during the talk in the officer's mess, when the officer said something to the effect of in the end everyone wants order.

Nah. Order is a common word used by Imperial types used by the most famous Imperial of all in the most famous scene of all.

"You do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy."

It's just what dystopian dictators say.

 

[Zardnaar]

Applies IRL as well. Ordet is crappy dictator 101.

 

[pukunui]

Did anyone else catch the Office Space reference?

 

[Nilbog]

That one would require you to have played the Battlefront II videogame's single-player campaign - which definitely isn't worth it. I got about halfway through, and only because Battlefront II came bundled with my PS4.

Basically, Operation Cinder is the Emperor getting posthumous revenge on the galaxy by getting the Empire to burn planetary populations with orbital laser installations, for no strategically-sound reason.

And for what it's worth, yeah, this episode is filler. It invents a problem for the characters to overcome, which they do by the end of the episode, leaving them in the same position they were before the problem was invented.

They had the location of moffs ship, which they didn't before. Did it invent the problem, I suppose it did, but isn't that what stories do? Invent problems for the protagonists to overcome?

Not the greatest episode by a long shot, and I think this is where the episodes short running time and mainly self contained nature hurt it, I thought it was a bit of an easy get out to find the ships location, I'd have preferred a little more complexity.

Having said that I still enjoyed it and wouldn't call it bad

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Nah. Order is a common word used by Imperial types used by the most famous Imperial of all in the most famous scene of all.

"You do not yet realize your importance. You have only begun to discover your power. Join me, and I will complete your training. With our combined strength, we can end this destructive conflict and bring order to the galaxy."

It's just what dystopian dictators say.

And not just in fiction.

 

[Deset Gled]

Still an episode behind, but this seemed relevant to the discussion.

 

[Imaculata]

The helmet thing was very sloppy writing. First Mayfield takes his helmet off, just for the purpose of the viewers being able to tell the two characters apart, but apparently everyone is fine with a stormtrooper not wearing their helmet. Then Mayfield is afraid to walk up to the console, because an officer might recognize him (just put your helmet back on?). Then Mando has to go in, but he must take off his helmet, because the console needs to scan your face... why? What is the point of facial scanning, if it doesn't also use facial identification? It seems like the writers were bending backwards trying to come up with a reason for Mando to take his helmet off.

These story issues are easy to solve, and I'm not even a writer: the driver and co-driver have different outfits or helmets, so Mayfield can keep his helmet on. You could even cut to an Ironman style view from inside his helmet and cut to it in between scenes to help the audience tell them apart. Alternatively, as they take the transport, one of the drivers receives damage to his helmet, making it easy to identify Mayfield. Then as the two characters enter the base, one of the officers wants to congratulate them face to face, and orders Mando to take off the helmet. It is that easy. Maybe they should hire me as a writer.

Another question: why would a random imperial base on a random planet know the position of Moff Gideon's ship... which moves around? Does every imperial ship just constantly update its position and relay that info to a central computer network accessible from every imperial base? How would that even work between planets?

Anyway, the effects and production design in this episode were on point. Love the driver-trooper armors, and the transport itself looked great. Did they build that thing for real, or was it a prop enhanced with cgi? I honestly couldn't tell. Hope they make a toy out of it, and the troopers.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Does every imperial ship just constantly update its position and relay that info to a central computer network accessible from every imperial base? How would that even work between planets?

I mean....yes. Obviously.

And it works because hyperspace communication, because Star Wars.

 

[pukunui]

I’ve watched enough Star Wars over the years to not be bothered by nonsensical stuff so much anymore.