The (new) Immortals Handbook Thread

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Anabstercorian mate!

He has two months. If he can't finish it by then, then I'm not investing in vaporware.

Well obviously I'm trying to get things finished as soon as possible. However I don't recall asking anyone to invest any money (as yet). In fact I seem to recall specifically turning down the idea of pre-orders. Everything else I have done (the numerous incarnations of the CR/EL system, the monsters on the website etc.) has all been free.

So while I appreciate your frustration at my prolonged procrastination I don't think its fair to say that I have actually asked you (or anyone else) to invest anything at this stage. Quite the opposite in fact, it is I who have invested in you*.

*that being a general 'you', not simply you Anabstercorian.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hello again!

Oh, let's come up with something new and interesting. I don't think I ever talked UK in to adding the Mobiatrius, the creature that is never born and never dies but simply loops through time, experiencing the same life an infinite number of times. That could be fun.

Interesting monster idea.

I wonder what would happen if we added the Atata (Time Tortured Creature) Template to the Mobiatrius? An Atata is an immortal (creature, deity etc.) that has been tortured for (what seems like) an eternity using temporal magic.

The idea came from an episode of Deep Space Nine where Chief O'Brien is incarcerated for what he thinks is 20 years, but its really only 20 hours (or something like that). He is released and is naturally somewhat unhinged by the experience.

 

[Baronovan]

I don't want to dwell on it but I've had a few problems working from home that I should (fingers crossed) shortly be able to correct. After that things will go much quicker in future.

So, you finally got your own PHB? Good to hear from you, and I'm glad to know things are straightened out.

 

[Anabstercorian]

Hello again!

Interesting monster idea.

I wonder what would happen if we added the Atata (Time Tortured Creature) Template to the Mobiatrius? An Atata is an immortal (creature, deity etc.) that has been tortured for (what seems like) an eternity using temporal magic.

The idea came from an episode of Deep Space Nine where Chief O'Brien is incarcerated for what he thinks is 20 years, but its really only 20 hours (or something like that). He is released and is naturally somewhat unhinged by the experience.

Hmmm. Well, a Mobiatrius would basically have a set memory - everything that has happened to it, it remembers, and everything that WILL happen to it, HAS happened to it. As a result, I don't know if it could ever advance, per se, or have a template applied to it - though I suppose it could run through a cycle of power at different stages of his existence.

Anyway, I don't think it would be too much different - it would just be another poor jerk who had spent every bit of existence he could remember clearly being tortured. You could probably apply the template without difficulty.

In fact, it could conceivably be the case that ALL Mobiatrius were Atata early in their existence-cycle. The only way to get from the end of the universe to the beginning again is to step through a timelike infinity of blinding horror - over and over and over...

 

[Verequus]

Hi UK!

I'm helping Roman in this thread with upping the core races, but with "In the Hands of the Earth"-ability I'm beyound my wisdom. Maybe you could shed some light on it - and on some other questions.

 

[Impeesa]

Interesting monster idea.

I wonder what would happen if we added the Atata (Time Tortured Creature) Template to the Mobiatrius? An Atata is an immortal (creature, deity etc.) that has been tortured for (what seems like) an eternity using temporal magic.

The idea came from an episode of Deep Space Nine where Chief O'Brien is incarcerated for what he thinks is 20 years, but its really only 20 hours (or something like that). He is released and is naturally somewhat unhinged by the experience.

Interesting. I've had ideas similar to both of those in execution, but very different in inspiration. The first was actually going to be more of a plot device in a hybrid Chrono Trigger-style Midnight game. The god of time was going to be reliving the entire timeline from the distant past up to the effective end of the world over and over again, looking for a way to prevent things from turning out that way. Eventually he would settle on the PCs to be groomed for the role of saviours.

The other was a spell that a caster would use voluntarily. Like a super-extended time stop, except the extra time could only be used to think (being spent entirely inside the caster's mind). Using it for a short virtual duration would allow bonuses to certain skills and the like, since the caster can pontificate on every angle for as long as he likes. Using it for longer durations would provide greater insights but threaten the caster's mental health.

--Impeesa--

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Baranovan mate!

So, you finally got your own PHB? Good to hear from you, and I'm glad to know things are straightened out.

Cheeky!

Its actually to do with moving my computer into some office space away from distractions.

Hiya Anabstercorian dude!

Hmmm. Well, a Mobiatrius would basically have a set memory - everything that has happened to it, it remembers, and everything that WILL happen to it, HAS happened to it. As a result, I don't know if it could ever advance, per se, or have a template applied to it - though I suppose it could run through a cycle of power at different stages of his existence.

Anyway, I don't think it would be too much different - it would just be another poor jerk who had spent every bit of existence he could remember clearly being tortured. You could probably apply the template without difficulty.

In fact, it could conceivably be the case that ALL Mobiatrius were Atata early in their existence-cycle. The only way to get from the end of the universe to the beginning again is to step through a timelike infinity of blinding horror - over and over and over...

I have a monster power (used in another monster not the Atata) called Mind Set that makes you repeat your actions over and over again...your bit about its set memory reminded me of that.

Also I was thinking of another time based monster that travels backwards through time - maybe related to the Ouzelum Bird.

Hi Impeesa matey!

Interesting. I've had ideas similar to both of those in execution, but very different in inspiration. The first was actually going to be more of a plot device in a hybrid Chrono Trigger-style Midnight game. The god of time was going to be reliving the entire timeline from the distant past up to the effective end of the world over and over again, looking for a way to prevent things from turning out that way. Eventually he would settle on the PCs to be groomed for the role of saviours.

The other was a spell that a caster would use voluntarily. Like a super-extended time stop, except the extra time could only be used to think (being spent entirely inside the caster's mind). Using it for a short virtual duration would allow bonuses to certain skills and the like, since the caster can pontificate on every angle for as long as he likes. Using it for longer durations would provide greater insights but threaten the caster's mental health.

That would be interesting in conjunction with my temporal magic - where you expend time to increase the power of your magic.

 

[Fieari]

Krust, will the really big dragons be in the preview? Because I'll be having a need for one in the upcomming weeks... something capable of devouring a planet at the least.

 

[Aquarius Alodar]

temporal magic - where you expend time to increase the power of your magic.

Ah, I'm not entirely clear on what 'expending time' is - my first impression was of a wizard or sorcerer increasing temporal-based entropy to power his works, objects (and evantually, creatures) falling into heaps of dust, the years sucked out of them.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Fieari mate!

Krust, will the really big dragons be in the preview? Because I'll be having a need for one in the upcomming weeks... something capable of devouring a planet at the least.

I'm redefining what BIG really means when applied to dragons.

I have Adamantite Dragons (Great Wyrm 95 HD; Titanic), Cometary Dragons (Great Wyrm 248; Macro-Fine), Mithril Dragons (Great Wyrm 95 HD; Titanic), Polychromatic Dragons (Great Wyrm 86 HD; Titanic), Timber Dragons (Great Wyrm 92 HD; Titanic) and Void Dragons (Great Wyrm 260 HD; Macro-Fine).

By the way I changed the progression of epic dragons from +5 HD to +6 HD/age category. It makes everything fit far better.

I also have a 2 page feature on dragons, that better explains what epic dragons are, explains adamic dragons (the ones above epic), and hints at Nehashimic Dragons (the ones above Adamic). This feature also includes rules on how to build your own dragons: True; Epic and Adamic.

I was going to include the Nehaschimic Dragons with the Nexus Dragon example. But it was too big at this stage and meant revealing some of the Time Lord abilities before I had even explained Time Lords, which I wasn't ready to do just yet.

Hey Aquarius Alodar dude!

Ah, I'm not entirely clear on what 'expending time' is - my first impression was of a wizard or sorcerer increasing temporal-based entropy to power his works, objects (and evantually, creatures) falling into heaps of dust, the years sucked out of them.

Well it can be as simple as increasing the casting time, or you can combine it with entropic magic and voluntarily age yourself for more impressive results.