The Reconquista OOC

[Branding Opportunity]

Yeah, the AoO might be a mistake on my part. Reading the SRD I thought that when it said "you provoke an attack of opportunity" I thought that's what it meant for everyone unless you have the Improved Grapple feat or ability. I thought the "you don't threaten the spaces around you if you don't have a weapon" rule only applied to AoO provoked by people moving out of threatened spaces. Do you know anywhere where that is made clearer?

 

[Thanee]

You have to differentiate between provoking and performing an AoO, then it will be clear.

Reivik provoked an AoO from the crazy guy.
The crazy guy cannot perform the AoO lacking a threatened area.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Hypersmurf]

You have to differentiate between provoking and performing an AoO, then it will be clear.

Reivik provoked an AoO from the crazy guy.
The crazy guy cannot perform the AoO lacking a threatened area.

I disagree there, actually Reivik only provoked an AoO if he was in a threatened square.

Provoking an Attack of Opportunity: Two kinds of actions can provoke attacks of opportunity: moving out of a threatened square and performing an action within a threatened square.

Performing a Distracting Act: Some actions, when performed in a threatened square, provoke attacks of opportunity as you divert your attention from the battle. Table: Actions in Combat notes many of the actions that provoke attacks of opportunity.

The grapple action is an action that provokes an opportunity... but like any other distracting act, it only provokes an attack of opportunity when performed in a threatened square. If it's performed in a non-threatened square, it doesn't provoke an AoO that nobody can take; rather, it does not provoke at all.

There are plenty of actions that state "this provokes attacks of opportunity", but by the definition of AoOs, there's an implicit "when performed in a threatened square" attached.

Examples:

Touch Attacks: Touching an opponent with a touch spell is considered to be an armed attack and therefore does not provoke attacks of opportunity. However, the act of casting a spell does provoke an attack of opportunity.

Spell Completion Items: Activating a spell completion item is the equivalent of casting a spell. It requires concentration and provokes attacks of opportunity.

Stand Up: Standing up from a prone position requires a move action and provokes attacks of opportunity.

It doesn't bother to repeat the phrase "from any opponent who threatens"; it's already covered by the definition of AoOs.

-Hyp.

 

[Scotley]

Uhm, Scotley, doesn't Morley have his bow with him?

That's actually why I chose the rooftop.

Bye
Thanee

True, but he doesn't have a clue who to shoot at.

 

[Branding Opportunity]

Thanks for clearing up the minutae of that rule. I think I understand it now. I'll change the previous IC post to reflect these changes.

 

[Thanee]

I disagree there, actually Reivik only provoked an AoO if he was in a threatened square.

Yep. The result is the same, tho.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Branding Opportunity]

I updated the previous post on the IC board. Sadly the results were almost the same! He has a very good touch AC

 

[Thanee]

But you didn't add Mage Armor or Shield spells to the touch AC, right?

Bye
Thanee

 

[Branding Opportunity]

But you didn't add Mage Armor or Shield spells to the touch AC, right?

Bye
Thanee

Nope, it's from a different source. I may get confused with rules but I do know how to calculate touch AC. He truly has a touch AC above 18.

 

[Thanee]

Okay, just wanted to be sure, since that is a common mistake (mixing touch and incorporeal touch AC).

Bye
Thanee