D&D Movie/TV There's A New Trailer For D&D: Honor Among Thieves

A brand new trailer for the upcoming Dungeons & Dragons movie has just been released! The movie comes out March 31st. This trailer very much highlights the tongue-in-cheek nature of the movie and is filled with one-liners. The trailer also gives us a good luck at the Red Wizards of Thay, along with the mimic, the owlbear, and other iconic D&D monsters.

 
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Russ Morrissey

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I believe the OGL situation will have zero impact on the movie. None whatsoever. Only a fraction of most RPG players are probably even aware which makes it near nil of the general population. Not to mention controversy such as negative comments may actually draw more attention. Even bad press is sometimes good.
I just wanna remind folks that it definitely isn’t such a tiny fraction of players who know about the OGL controversy. That’s just a bias talking from when the hobby was much smaller.

The Washington post, the Guardian, Forbes, and a dozen other mainstream news sources, have all reported on it.

People who barely even know that D&D exists know about it.
 

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I just wanna remind folks that it definitely isn’t such a tiny fraction of players who know about the OGL controversy. That’s just a bias talking from when the hobby was much smaller.

The Washington post, the Guardian, Forbes, and a dozen other mainstream news sources, have all reported on it.

People who barely even know that D&D exists know about it.
I hear what you are saying but I see and read a lot of news articles and most I end up not caring about or forgetting moments later. I still don’t think that most people who saw these articles care or will change their behavior based on them. We are attuned to these stories because we are in the hobby so they stick out to us. For most people they are just one of a million news items that will come across their screens that week.
 

Undrave

Hero
But they also MIGHT have been partially responsible for the new OGL anyway, pressuring WotC to amend the licence to ensure nobody else can make a nearly-D&D film and compete with them. Or both of the above might be true, consistency never being a particularly valued or necessary quality among vast corporations...
Hadn't thought of this angle but I find it a little hard to believe they would be scared of that considering all the stuff that's not in the OGL (like the NAME Dungeons & Dragons. Nobody's gonna go see a Pathfinder movie)... but I wouldn't be surprised if nobody at the studio and Hasbro's higher ups understood the OGL and what it brought to the table.
 

Aldarc

Legend
I just wanna remind folks that it definitely isn’t such a tiny fraction of players who know about the OGL controversy. That’s just a bias talking from when the hobby was much smaller.

The Washington post, the Guardian, Forbes, and a dozen other mainstream news sources, have all reported on it.

People who barely even know that D&D exists know about it.
Does China know or care?
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Damn Uncle Moneybags, didn't even know you could do that. Your clearly a good friend to have.

Weirdly, depending on the theater and location, renting out a theater for a private watch party is a lot less expensive than you might think.*

(Something I learned when I wanted to see Tenet during COVID with a small group of friends).


*ETA- Especially if you can get a group together for an afternoon during the week.
 

The characters, the casting, the action beats and most especially the dialogue are all telling us that this will be a predictable action comedy.
I disagree that the characters suggest that this will be a predictable action comedy.

The party consists of : a bard, paladin, sorcerer, druid and barbarian.

No rogues, no wizards, no fighters, no clerics, the classes that almost always appear as part of the party in D&D-inspired fantasy movies.

The bard isn’t stupid comic relief, he appears to be the party leader.
The barbarian isn’t a monosyllabic idiot, but appears to be the second in command.
The “dumb” character role seems to have been given to the arcane caster, which is also not very common.

A bit early to say, but it doesn’t seem like the white main character ends up with the cute druid who is 20 years younger than he is.

Hugh Grant’s character seems to be the main antagonist, and he seems to be a rogue, rather than a wizard or a fighter.
 

Kinematics

Adventurer
I used 3e to run Castle Falkenstein.
/stares at you in horror

To do well it needs 25 million people to see it?*
So needs lots non-rpg people to go.
I'm really looking forward to it.
I hope it does very well.

* I have no idea what say $500 million box office is in terms of ' people'.
Average ticket price in the US is estimated to be about $11. (An exact value used to be reported annually, but the National Association of Theater Owners hasn't updated it since 2019.) The budget for the film is estimated at $45 million. The typical guideline for a movie to break even is to make twice its budget in sales (to account for marketing/distribution/corporate overhead/etc).

So 8.2 million people seeing the movie in the US would be the break-even point (~$90 million). There's also worldwide ticket sales, but variations in pricing make that kind of impossible to gauge how many people that represents.

For comparison, Alita: Battle Angel made $85 million in the US, so that same level of moviegoing would be the threshold for them to reach, even if worldwide sales were weak. Half-decent worldwide sales should boost it enough that it would likely be worth making a sequel.

Edit: With Ruin Explorer's estimate of $100-$150 million, the number of people seeing the movie increases by 2x to 3x, putting the total at 16-25 million, or up to at your estimate.
 
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The budget for the film is estimated at $45 million.
No. Google is lying to you.

That's the budget for the ORIGINAL D&D movie, that's being misreported by idiots (not you, I mean websites) and the Google.


"There was a Dungeons and Dragons film in the early 2000s, but it was a failure. It only made $33.8 million out of a budget of $45 million."

Just from what we're seeing I'd guess this one is in the $100m-$150m range.
 



doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
And how does "Sir Coque Goblar" feel about his earlier character choices when it comes to the later dramatic scenes?
Jeeeesus LOL thankfully I haven’t seen anything that bad since I was still afraid of making my parents mad! 😂

One guy is much more of the type to not get too deep into the sauce until he really has a feel for the character, but even he doesn’t do pun names. He had a kenku ranger named Skrawk or soemthing like that, but yeah we just tend to start out being silly in game, and things tend to start getting more and more serious as the game goes on.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I hear what you are saying but I see and read a lot of news articles and most I end up not caring about or forgetting moments later. I still don’t think that most people who saw these articles care or will change their behavior based on them. We are attuned to these stories because we are in the hobby so they stick out to us. For most people they are just one of a million news items that will come across their screens that week.
I really think you’re dismissing something because we have all spent years and years being reminded that our entire hobby is smaller than the fandom for the Dallas Cowboys, but that isn’t true anymore. D&D is well known, and most people who are going to be excited about the movie coming up will have seen negative news about D&D recently.

Any discussion of what impact it will have on box office is outside the scope of what I replied to comment on.
 


I really think you’re dismissing something because we have all spent years and years being reminded that our entire hobby is smaller than the fandom for the Dallas Cowboys, but that isn’t true anymore. D&D is well known, and most people who are going to be excited about the movie coming up will have seen negative news about D&D recently.

Any discussion of what impact it will have on box office is outside the scope of what I replied to comment on.
I understand. I guess we just see this differently which is ok.

The past two day I asked 15 people who don’t play D&D about the movie and the OGL controversy. 4 of the 15 had heard of the movie. One of the 15 had seen a preview. None of the 15 had heard or seen anything about the OGL at least as far as they recall. I know this is a meaningless sample size but it illustrates my point.
 

bloodtide

Adventurer
I want to try and keep an open mind.....

......but right at the start they have the barbarian fight with a brick. A Brick?! WHY? Saddly I know what this means: all the fights vs real people will be the dumb slapstick non-combat. So we will see the dumb "tap the foe with the sword and they will..yuck yuck fall down and go to sleep" and "tap a foe with a battle axe and it trips them and they fall down and go boom and fall asleep".

So the "have weapons but never use them" is a big red flag for me, as it's part of the over all "this movie will be barley pg-13 slapstick silly comedy'. Though sure they will use the weapons "for real" vs all the CGI spam monsters, because video game cgi combat is OK.

And it's hard to tell from a trailer but the wizard SHOULD be 'pew pew' ing away with magic missiles every combat, right? As it's a at will cantrip in 5E....wonder if the character will just "forget" to do it?

But then I wonder what level the group will be? Sure they will have ACs of 100, and 100 hit points, and plot armor and such. But if they are above 3rd level we should see some noticeable abilities. Though they will likely be at least 5th level so the wizard gets fireball.

And Red Wizards......guess that makes it a Forgotten Realms movie, wonder if we will see the Sword Coast and Waterdeep....
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
And it's hard to tell from a trailer but the wizard SHOULD be 'pew pew' ing away with magic missiles every combat, right? As it's a at will cantrip in 5E....wonder if the character will just "forget" to do it?

Optimization may not be the enemy of fun, but it is certainly the enemy of a good drama.
-Bill James, probably.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

100% that gnome
......but right at the start they have the barbarian fight with a brick. A Brick?! WHY? Saddly I know what this means: all the fights vs real people will be the dumb slapstick non-combat.
They're prisoners at that point. Using an improvised weapon at that point makes perfect sense. (It's actually how things go in the real world, in fact.)

They use their real weapons all over the trailers we've seen to date, whether it's the barbarian's molten axe or the paladin's fancy magic sword.

And it's hard to tell from a trailer but the wizard SHOULD be 'pew pew' ing away with magic missiles every combat, right? As it's a at will cantrip in 5E....wonder if the character will just "forget" to do it?
Not a cantrip, not a wizard. And he is pew-pewing in the previous trailer.
But then I wonder what level the group will be? Sure they will have ACs of 100, and 100 hit points, and plot armor and such. But if they are above 3rd level we should see some noticeable abilities. Though they will likely be at least 5th level so the wizard gets fireball.

And Red Wizards......guess that makes it a Forgotten Realms movie, wonder if we will see the Sword Coast and Waterdeep....
It's Neverwinter.
 

Iosue

Hero
I want to try and keep an open mind.....

......but right at the start they have the barbarian fight with a brick. A Brick?! WHY? Saddly I know what this means: all the fights vs real people will be the dumb slapstick non-combat. So we will see the dumb "tap the foe with the sword and they will..yuck yuck fall down and go to sleep" and "tap a foe with a battle axe and it trips them and they fall down and go boom and fall asleep".

So the "have weapons but never use them" is a big red flag for me, as it's part of the over all "this movie will be barley pg-13 slapstick silly comedy'. Though sure they will use the weapons "for real" vs all the CGI spam monsters, because video game cgi combat is OK.
She’s fighting with a brick because they are prisoners and have no weapons.

And the first trailer showed the paladin stabbing a human foe with his sword.
And it's hard to tell from a trailer but the wizard SHOULD be 'pew pew' ing away with magic missiles every combat, right? As it's a at will cantrip in 5E....wonder if the character will just "forget" to do it?
Couple things:
Magic missile is not an at will cantrip in 5e. The character is a sorcerer, not a wizard. Sorcerers do get at-will Eldritch Blasts, which you can see him spamming when the party is fighting the Red Wizard.

Setting all that aside, though, surely it would be more interesting and magical if the magic user uses a variety of spells, rather than just spamming at-will energy bolts like Iron Man?
And Red Wizards......guess that makes it a Forgotten Realms movie, wonder if we will see the Sword Coast and Waterdeep....
Neverwinter and Icewind Dale are confirmed.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I understand. I guess we just see this differently which is ok.

The past two day I asked 15 people who don’t play D&D about the movie and the OGL controversy. 4 of the 15 had heard of the movie. One of the 15 had seen a preview. None of the 15 had heard or seen anything about the OGL at least as far as they recall. I know this is a meaningless sample size but it illustrates my point.
Sure, and I have had people I know bring it up to me because they know I'm a nerd, and they saw something about it in a completely non-nerd-related space, not to mention that most people I've brought it up with had some idea what I was talking about already.
 

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