D&D Movie/TV There's A New Trailer For D&D: Honor Among Thieves

A brand new trailer for the upcoming Dungeons & Dragons movie has just been released! The movie comes out March 31st. This trailer very much highlights the tongue-in-cheek nature of the movie and is filled with one-liners. The trailer also gives us a good luck at the Red Wizards of Thay, along with the mimic, the owlbear, and other iconic D&D monsters.

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[payn]

He's a lower b bard, not a capital B Bard. His cover and background is in music but mechanically he's not a Bard class character.

Maybe, Im now having flash backs to the time folks were talking about how to make the Joker in D&D and everybody kept dumping CHA. Its possible, but feels like a stretch.

 

[Undrave]

Maybe, Im now having flash backs to the time folks were talking about how to make the Joker in D&D and everybody kept dumping CHA. Its possible, but feels like a stretch.

CHA is a good ability score for a Face Rogue. And the Mastermind can spend his time helping at a distance so he doesn't need to be as good at fighting

Also he doesn't seem THAT good at being a face that he can't avoid being this close to being executed in a jail he's probably only got middling CHA

 

[FrozenNorth]

He's a lower b bard, not a capital B Bard. His cover and background is in music but mechanically he's not a Bard class character.

Wouldn’t a more reasonable interpretation be that he’s a Bard with the Criminal/Street Urchin background?

If the movie comes out and he doesn’t use any magic, I’d be prepared to conclude that he’s a Rogue trained in Performance. Otherwise, saying he’s probably a Rogue because he seems smart seems like a bit of a stretch.

 

[Haplo781]

Wouldn’t a more reasonable interpretation be that he’s a Bard with the Criminal/Street Urchin background?

If the movie comes out and he doesn’t use any magic, I’d be prepared to conclude that he’s a Rogue trained in Performance. Otherwise, saying he’s probably a Rogue because he seems smart seems like a bit of a stretch.

Given the amount/length of combats we'll likely see on screen, I'm betting rogue with the Entertainer background and Magic Initiate feat would be a good approximation even if he uses as much magic as the sorcerer.

 

[Undrave]

Wouldn’t a more reasonable interpretation be that he’s a Bard with the Criminal/Street Urchin background?

If the movie comes out and he doesn’t use any magic, I’d be prepared to conclude that he’s a Rogue trained in Performance. Otherwise, saying he’s probably a Rogue because he seems smart seems like a bit of a stretch.

It's because he feels like a guy who's all talk and screwy plans

Both are equally valid possibilities!

 

[FrozenNorth]

Given the amount/length of combats we'll likely see on screen, I'm betting rogue with the Entertainer background and Magic Initiate feat would be a good approximation even if he uses as much magic as the sorcerer.

But why conclude that? What makes that more probable than Bard?

 

[OB1]

I think it’s more likely that he’s a bard who doesn’t flash his magical abilities. Lets people underestimate what he can do. They’re probably saving that reveal for the third act of the film. While we know a bard can do magic, most of the audience won’t.

 

[cbwjm]

Or maybe... spell-less bard variant incoming!

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I think it’s more likely that he’s a bard who doesn’t flash his magical abilities. Lets people underestimate what he can do. They’re probably saving that reveal for the third act of the film. While we know a bard can do magic, most of the audience won’t.

Yeah that's interesting. I'll be surprised if he doesn't do any magic at all, and far more of the audience (albeit still a tiny proportion) will know Bards can do magic now than, say, 5-10 years ago, thanks to Critical Role particularly.

 

[OB1]

Yeah that's interesting. I'll be surprised if he doesn't do any magic at all, and far more of the audience (albeit still a tiny proportion) will know Bards can do magic now than, say, 5-10 years ago, thanks to Critical Role particularly.

Oh for sure. But it makes for a nice new audience intro and running gag if he seems like he’s super charming, great at locks, can hide really well and then late in the film it’s revealed it was magic all along (charm person, knock, invisibility). Especially given how Sophia Lilis character in the trailer is questioning what his value is etc.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I completed a survey about the movie a year or so ago. One of the questions was "how do you feel about a bard who does not cast spells?". Given that another question was "how do you feel about a druid who wildshapes into an owlbear?" I think it gave significant clues!

Personally, I never liked spellcasting bards. I always felt that useless comic relief was the proper role of bard characters.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Wouldn’t a more reasonable interpretation be that he’s a Bard with the Criminal/Street Urchin background?

If the movie comes out and he doesn’t use any magic, I’d be prepared to conclude that he’s a Rogue trained in Performance. Otherwise, saying he’s probably a Rogue because he seems smart seems like a bit of a stretch.

Would not be the first time... Cough Azure Bonds cough...

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Would not be the first time... Cough Azure Bonds cough...

Azure Bonds was based on AD&D first edition rules, so any bard character would have been a dual classed fighter/thief/druid.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Azure Bonds was based on AD&D first edition rules, so any bard character would have been a dual classed fighter/thief/druid.

Ok. In the book there is an inside joke, where someone (I think it was the court wizard) mentions: "I though halflings can't become bards" or something along that lines.
I always had the impression that it was early 2e before the bardic handbook, where only humans and half-elves were allowed to become bards.
But of course, since the story took place during or short before the time of troubbles, it was either a 1st edition joke or it was foreshadowing the rules update.

But either way, my point stands.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Ok. In the book there is an inside joke, where someone (I think it was the court wizard) mentions: "I though halflings can't become bards" or something along that lines.
I always had the impression that it was early 2e before the bardic handbook, where only humans and half-elves were allowed to become bards.
But of course, since the story took place during or short before the time of troubbles, it was either a 1st edition joke or it was foreshadowing the rules update.

But either way, my point stands.

The book was published around the time of the 1st to 2nd edition transition, but since it must have been written earlier, one assumes the author was using 1st edition rules. I'm not sure which edition the Gold Box game used. But bards where limited to humans and half elves in both 1st and 2nd edition.

But over the editions, bard spellcasting has steadily increased. A trend I do not like.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

The book was published around the time of the 1st to 2nd edition transition, but since it must have been written earlier, one assumes the author was using 1st edition rules. I'm not sure which edition the Gold Box game used. But bards where limited to humans and half elves in both 1st and 2nd edition.

But over the editions, bard spellcasting has steadily increased. A trend I do not like.

The bard spellcasting declined from 2e to 3e by a lot. And 4e has powers for everyone. 5e increased it back to 2e values (and a bit on top).

One coulr make a case to introduce 2/3 casters, which would fit bards and artificers alike. The question is, is it worth it?
I recently looked up the C&C bard which has no spellcasting at all. It is a warrior subtype not unlike the warlord IIRC.

The strength of the bard for me was always: be everything. The core 4e bard had a cool feature that allowed for improved multiclassing. Maybe it is on us to multiclass out to get the "bard" , which fits our imagination. Or create more classes: warlord, skald, ministrel, dilettante which cover all.

My ideal bard would be a warrior/rogue that relies on int as well as charisma and casts a good amount of spells.

 

[Cadence]

This is not supposed to be a Forgotten Realms Ken Burns documentary.

Now I'm picturing a bunch of Burns and Attenborough clips done in their respective styles.

Thanks... I think

 

[Cadence]

I disagree. I don’t need trailers to obfuscate what the movie is about.

I also don’t care about spoilers, so maybe those are connected.

I'm a big fan of some of the Marvel previews that seem like they show a lot, but the order of the clips doesn't really give you more of the story than the brief blurbs about the film does. (It doesn't work as well when there is a main character costume change though).

 

[Henadic Theologian]

He's a lower b bard, not a capital B Bard. His cover and background is in music but mechanically he's not a Bard class character.

Yes actually he is a Capital B Bard, he does Bard magic. It's just not shown in the trailers.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Yes actually he is a Capital B Bard, he does Bard magic. It's just not shown in the trailers.

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