D&D (2024) They butchered the warlock in the new packet

[Charlaquin]

This is no different than taking a short rest every chance you can get.

Yes, which is why, again, everyone having a mix of long rest and long rest abilities creates the most dynamic gameplay patterns.

 

[mamba]

Making resource management less dynamic.

no, getting rid of restrictive pacing

And encouraging 5 minute workdays.

no more or less than you already have

Restrictions foster creativity.

not if there are no interesting choices. Do I use my 'every encounter skill' this encounter or the next? oh, wait...

 

[mamba]

It makes a difference if you can unload 2 spells or a full 6 in a single encounter.

yes, it gives the player agency, and it screws them over in the next encounter

 

[Charlaquin]

no, let them nova, they do not know what day will turn out short. If you want to blow all your resources and two encounters, I am not going to stop you

Sure they do. If they want to make it short, it’ll be short. Tiny Hut is a thing, as is just going back to town.

 

[mamba]

Did you really just claim the 5mwd doesn’t seem to be a problem in modern D&D? That’s just… inaccurate.

I said this does not change the severity of the problem

 

[payn]

Yes, which is why, again, everyone having a mix of long rest and long rest abilities creates the most dynamic gameplay patterns.

One person's dynamic is another's janky. I vastly prefer a resource attrition long rest or an encounters based design, but not a mix. YMMV.

 

[mamba]

At you table, how much real-life-time is taken up by the party taking a short rest?

At my table 80%+ of the time it's the GM saying "OK you rest. Spend HD and regain whatever you get" and play resumes after some people roll a few dice and update their HP tally sheets.

it's not about real life time, it is about offering more flexibility and interesting decisions. If I regain everything on a short rest, then I short rest after every encounter, no decision needed as to what skill to use when, no consequences to going all out in this encounter

 

[mamba]

Sure they do. If they want to make it short, it’ll be short. Tiny Hut is a thing, as is just going back to town.

agree to disagree, this is going nowhere. As far as I am concerned everything on long rest and only healing on short rest is far superior to a mix or everything on short rest.

 

[Charlaquin]

no, getting rid of restrictive pacing

And making resource management less dynamic in the process

no more or less than you already have

Far more than you would have if a mix of at-will, encounter, and daily resources was standard.

not if there are no interesting choices. Do I use my 'every encounter skill' this encounter or the next? oh, wait...

The question is, which of my several spells should I spend one of my two spell slots on, of which I can probably use one safely? Or should I use both of them, at the risk of not having one in the next encounter? Or do I save them to use both in the next encounter? Or should I use my 1/day Mysytic Arcanum? Maybe if I use both my spell slots now, the Mystic Arcanum will be enough to get me through the next fight without a spell slot.

 

[Charlaquin]

I said this does not change the severity of the problem

It would make it worse if every limited resource recovered on the same schedule.