pukunui
Legend
Which, by most accounts, was the worst of Phase 4 so far.
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Zardnaar
Legend
Was kinda fun liked it better than a few previous movies.
It's a bit over the top though personally I prefer more grounded superheros otherwise it rapidly becomes a race of can you top this which rapidly becomes stupid.
pukunui
Legend
If you haven't watched Moon Knight yet, that's worth a look then.
Zardnaar
Legend
Nope watched the first few kinda got sicjk of them. Loki was kinda fun.
Just not that much into superheros if they crossover with another genre eg Blade also passes as an action film it's easier.
Batman (Nolan trilogy and 89) were also good.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
That the one that ends with a pair of kaiju-sized Egyptian gods punching each other out over the Great Pyramid?
Tonguez
A suffusion of yellow
Yeah thats the one, Im still not sure how to feel about finding a Hippo- woman and a demon Crocodile kinda hawt
pukunui
Legend
Yes, but Moon Knight himself is not a particularly over-the-top superhero. As Marc says himself, his only real superpower is Steven.
trappedslider
Legend
confused boner
I was pretty happy with the new Thor movie.
It was cool to see more of New Asgard, and how they have had to adapt into a tourist trap to stay afloat. I am sure that our new King Valkeryie has been approached by many governments to provide "warriors" to their forces, but so far seems to have stayed out of global politics (in that way). It would be interesting to see a New Asgard/Wakanda scenario....as now New Asgard might be a technological challenge to Wakanda in at least certain ways.
I wasn't sure about Jane going into this movie, but they did a good job with her. I really like the touch that it was Thor's wish to protect her that convinced Mjolnir to grant her powers (actually was it Mjolnir....see below). It doesn't take away from Jane's worthiness, but it does neatly answer the question, "out of everyone in the world is Jane REALLY the most worthy to get the powers?) It also ties in to something that happens later in the movie that I'll cover in a moment. But ultimately they handled her cancer respectably, and I was a fan of her death at the end, I think it felt appropriate, and it was cool to see her in Valhalla (though as a nerdy scientist is Valhalla REALLY going to be her ideal heaven? It would be interesting to see in Thor 5 her breakout because Valhalla "sucks" for her).
It was cool to get a Darcy and Selgwig cameo, though a little more Darcy would have been great
I think Thor as a primarily comedic character just works for him. I mean we are talking crazy over the top space vikings, the premise is BONKERS, so taking it seriously is probably the worst thing to do (which we see more of in the first two movies to questionable results).
I did like the villain, would have loved to see some more. I actually wanted to see a softer side with the children, I would have loved to see him actually careing for his hostages, a call back to a love for his daughter. now considering the corruption from the blade his actions were not "out of character" but it would have been a nice touch. But I did like that in the end, once the blade's corruption had been removed by its destruction, that his love for his daughter won out over his desire for revenge.
Now I think one of the biggest revelations in the movie, that was done subtlely....is that Thor has effectively taken control of the Odinforce. Thor isn't just wielding power, he's wielding magic. The scene where he gives the children power is very reminiscent on his father. Further, when we see his wish for Jane reflect in the runes of Mjolnir, we again see a possible use of the Odinforce. In fact....it might be argued that it wasn't Mjolnir that was giving Jane her powers, but Thor, using Mjolnir as a conduit. This would actually fix a possible plot hole, as it was established in Thor 3 that Odin created Mjolnir for Thor not to give him power....but to control his own power. Therefore....why would Mjolnir give Jane powers? It works however, if its actually Thor unconsciously using the Odinforce to give Jane powers and keep her safe.
Now that said, the biggest plot hole in the movie is the whole Omnipotent City. Its a cool scene, but it does bring up a whole lot of questions. Did none of the gods intervene when Thanos was going for the snap?.....its possible they were so out of the loop they didn't know so that's one explanation. But after the snap, Thor never thought to look them up for help? The counter is that the gods generally don't help....but this is the snap we are talking about. They would have lost half of their people to, and so would have been very very incentivized to undo it.
It was also weird that the gods knew about Eternity, but didn't seem to know the bifrost unlocked it? And somehow Gorr knew but noone else did? Also....are the Asguardians the only ones that can use the bifrost, some of those other gods seem pretty strong none of them can use it? Those are more minor points though that I can overlook, they didn't know because they didn't know, and Gorr knew because he was obsessed with finding it and so searched everywhere for the knowledge.
But the fact that the Omnipotent City existed at all is a pretty big plot hole. A far cleaner way would have been one of the guardians to reveal the info instead of Thor, one of the guardians that was conveniently dusted during the snap. That way we can have the info now, and it's very understandable why we didn't have it during the snap. Easy Peesy. Or maybe even better, the city was built after the snap....because watching half of the gods get dusted suddenly made safety and security way higher of a priority. That would help explain why Thor didn't know about it (if we go with a GoTG knows)....or why Thor does know but couldn't have gone there during the snap, as it might not have existed yet. This is always my issue with these kinds of holes.... I can think of a simple way out of them with like 5 minutes thought, and I'm not a writer. They can spend tons of time slipping little easter eggs on movie posters but can't be bothered to take just a bit of time and shore up their continuity.
but that one hole aside, overall I quite enjoyed the movie.
It was cool to see more of New Asgard, and how they have had to adapt into a tourist trap to stay afloat. I am sure that our new King Valkeryie has been approached by many governments to provide "warriors" to their forces, but so far seems to have stayed out of global politics (in that way). It would be interesting to see a New Asgard/Wakanda scenario....as now New Asgard might be a technological challenge to Wakanda in at least certain ways.
I wasn't sure about Jane going into this movie, but they did a good job with her. I really like the touch that it was Thor's wish to protect her that convinced Mjolnir to grant her powers (actually was it Mjolnir....see below). It doesn't take away from Jane's worthiness, but it does neatly answer the question, "out of everyone in the world is Jane REALLY the most worthy to get the powers?) It also ties in to something that happens later in the movie that I'll cover in a moment. But ultimately they handled her cancer respectably, and I was a fan of her death at the end, I think it felt appropriate, and it was cool to see her in Valhalla (though as a nerdy scientist is Valhalla REALLY going to be her ideal heaven? It would be interesting to see in Thor 5 her breakout because Valhalla "sucks" for her).
It was cool to get a Darcy and Selgwig cameo, though a little more Darcy would have been great
I think Thor as a primarily comedic character just works for him. I mean we are talking crazy over the top space vikings, the premise is BONKERS, so taking it seriously is probably the worst thing to do (which we see more of in the first two movies to questionable results).
I did like the villain, would have loved to see some more. I actually wanted to see a softer side with the children, I would have loved to see him actually careing for his hostages, a call back to a love for his daughter. now considering the corruption from the blade his actions were not "out of character" but it would have been a nice touch. But I did like that in the end, once the blade's corruption had been removed by its destruction, that his love for his daughter won out over his desire for revenge.
Now I think one of the biggest revelations in the movie, that was done subtlely....is that Thor has effectively taken control of the Odinforce. Thor isn't just wielding power, he's wielding magic. The scene where he gives the children power is very reminiscent on his father. Further, when we see his wish for Jane reflect in the runes of Mjolnir, we again see a possible use of the Odinforce. In fact....it might be argued that it wasn't Mjolnir that was giving Jane her powers, but Thor, using Mjolnir as a conduit. This would actually fix a possible plot hole, as it was established in Thor 3 that Odin created Mjolnir for Thor not to give him power....but to control his own power. Therefore....why would Mjolnir give Jane powers? It works however, if its actually Thor unconsciously using the Odinforce to give Jane powers and keep her safe.
Now that said, the biggest plot hole in the movie is the whole Omnipotent City. Its a cool scene, but it does bring up a whole lot of questions. Did none of the gods intervene when Thanos was going for the snap?.....its possible they were so out of the loop they didn't know so that's one explanation. But after the snap, Thor never thought to look them up for help? The counter is that the gods generally don't help....but this is the snap we are talking about. They would have lost half of their people to, and so would have been very very incentivized to undo it.
It was also weird that the gods knew about Eternity, but didn't seem to know the bifrost unlocked it? And somehow Gorr knew but noone else did? Also....are the Asguardians the only ones that can use the bifrost, some of those other gods seem pretty strong none of them can use it? Those are more minor points though that I can overlook, they didn't know because they didn't know, and Gorr knew because he was obsessed with finding it and so searched everywhere for the knowledge.
But the fact that the Omnipotent City existed at all is a pretty big plot hole. A far cleaner way would have been one of the guardians to reveal the info instead of Thor, one of the guardians that was conveniently dusted during the snap. That way we can have the info now, and it's very understandable why we didn't have it during the snap. Easy Peesy. Or maybe even better, the city was built after the snap....because watching half of the gods get dusted suddenly made safety and security way higher of a priority. That would help explain why Thor didn't know about it (if we go with a GoTG knows)....or why Thor does know but couldn't have gone there during the snap, as it might not have existed yet. This is always my issue with these kinds of holes.... I can think of a simple way out of them with like 5 minutes thought, and I'm not a writer. They can spend tons of time slipping little easter eggs on movie posters but can't be bothered to take just a bit of time and shore up their continuity.
but that one hole aside, overall I quite enjoyed the movie.
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