Thor: Love and Thunder spoilers

Mixed feelings. Went into it thinking the degree of farce was going to put me off, and it did, but the last third of the movie kind of made it up to me.
 

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Asgard is still a warrior culture, it is absolutely expected that kids would start training early to become warriors. If it seems a little child-soldiery, its because.....it is.
Eh, having all your citizens train to be competent fighters isn’t child soldiery at all.

Child soldiers are slaves forced to kill for their captors. Y’all get that, right? Like those kids aren’t going to be expected to fight as children (outside of emergencies like this), they’re just being trained to fight when they need to.
 

Yeah, Asgardians are definitely a warrior culture, and that includes training their children to fight from a early age.
Tbh even peaceful cultures should do so. Training to fight is a wonderful way to stay healthy, form bonds with peers, mentors, and later with your own students, and have a confident and well adjusted (all other things being equal) populace.
 


I think the wacky humor often clashes with the more serious undertones. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I think Ragnarok and Guardians of the Galaxy did a better job finding that balance. Especially Guardians 2 had an emotional heart to it, that grounded it among all the wacky jokes.

Yeah, Guardians worked for me a little better, though I sometimes thought it got tedious there, too. But it had the advantage that the goofier elements of the characters who ran in that direction there were baked in from the first time you see them, effectively; they're just how they roll. Its more bothersome with Thor.
 

Tbh even peaceful cultures should do so. Training to fight is a wonderful way to stay healthy, form bonds with peers, mentors, and later with your own students, and have a confident and well adjusted (all other things being equal) populace.
I 100% agree, actually. Did martial arts a lot as a kid and young adult, and it gave me a sense of respect for myself and others that I don't think I would have gotten otherwise.
Granted, there's definitely terrible teachers and dojos out there with some deeply unhealthy mentalities, but the concept itself is sound.
 

Enjoyed the movie. I wished it was a bit longer for two reasons. 1) Dive more into the gods and how uncaring they are. There was a chance to make a deeper criticism there. All we got was enough to move things along. 2) Give me another minute of that shadow world fight please. That was awesome and I wanted more.

Overall, this movie is a lot like the rest of the Phase 4 movie offerings. It's enjoyable, the action is good, the visuals work, and the story is fine. We just haven't had that big breakout film like Iron Man and Avengers in phase 1, Winter Soldier and Guardians in phase 2, or half the movies of phase 3. There are still 6(?) movies to go in this phase so there is still time to make something great instead of good.
 

I 100% agree, actually. Did martial arts a lot as a kid and young adult, and it gave me a sense of respect for myself and others that I don't think I would have gotten otherwise.
Granted, there's definitely terrible teachers and dojos out there with some deeply unhealthy mentalities, but the concept itself is sound.
Absolutely. I started learning a fight sport at 23, and I really wish I’d done so as a kid.
 

Finally got to see this. I loved it! It rocked. As far as I'm concerned, the criticisms against it are all storms in a teacup.

I love that Taika got to have Thor give a shout-out to the Māori god of war, Tūmatauenga, and put an unidentified Māori goddess in the crowd in Omnipotent City.

I also had no issue with Thor not going to ask those gods for help to stop Thanos. I think the only reason he went to ask for help in this movie is because he thought they would help a fellow god. I still wouldn't be surprised if the opening of the multiverse had something to do with it as well, though.


One thing I'm ever so slightly disappointed about here, though, is the "truth" about gods in the MCU. I felt like Thor and his fellow Asgardian "gods" were originally portrayed as being not really gods but actually super advanced space aliens - although there was always something magical about them nevertheless. But this movie makes it seem like all the beings we think of as gods are both a) real and b) space aliens. They're not really supernatural beings from some other dimension. Well, I suppose some might normally live in other dimensions but they come to Omnipotent City to hang out there ... and Omnipotent City is just like a giant space station hanging in some nebula somewhere in outer space. Kinda weird really.
 

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