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Thoughts on the rebooted He-Man (Netflix)

I mean, it's a kid's show. I thought it was fun, treading that nice line of embracing all the ridiculousness of the setting with earnest enthusiasm without being campy. For what it was, there were bits of halfway decent characterization. If this sort of stuff happened in a D&D game we'd probably be thrilled with it.

I don't bat an eye at the big twist. Like, did none of y'all nostalgic fans ever watch the Transformers cartoon movie where they killed off literally every original character except Bumblebee and the Dinobots, because that way they could sell new toys?
 

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MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
I mean, it's a kid's show. I thought it was fun, treading that nice line of embracing all the ridiculousness of the setting with earnest enthusiasm without being campy. For what it was, there were bits of halfway decent characterization. If this sort of stuff happened in a D&D game we'd probably be thrilled with it.

I don't bat an eye at the big twist. Like, did none of y'all nostalgic fans ever watch the Transformers cartoon movie where they killed off literally every original character except Bumblebee and the Dinobots, because that way they could sell new toys?
I thought that movie had traumatized a whole generation?
 

ardoughter

Hero
Supporter
I watched and enjoyed but not a fan of the old show. Did think it was aimed at the nostalgia audience not current teens. It could have done with a few more episode for character development. I would watch another season if one turns up.
 

Rune

Once A Fool
I watched and enjoyed but not a fan of the old show. Did think it was aimed at the nostalgia audience not current teens. It could have done with a few more episode for character development. I would watch another season if one turns up.
That was only the first half of the season. The second half is finished, but Netflix decided to divide it in half and stagger it’s release.
 


Challenging moderation
OK, folks, this thread is - ridiculously, given the subject matter - in imminent danger of getting closed because for some reasons it's giving rise to some really bad behavior. The absurd hyperbole, gaslighting, and insults are not acceptable. Let me remind you that you're talking about a cartoon, and if you can't do that civilly and in good faith, don't do it at all; and if you can't refrain voluntarily, we'll help you. My patience is running a little thin. I hope I've made myself clear.
So does that mean pejorative terms like review bombing won't be used in the future? After all it is an insult to those who watched the show and genuinely didn't like it.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
So does that mean pejorative terms like review bombing won't be used in the future? After all it is an insult to those who watched the show and genuinely didn't like it.
Do not discuss moderation in-thread. If you need a refresher on the rules, there’s a link to them on every page.
 

Ath-kethin

Elder Thing
It does feel like it was structured to suit such a release schedule.
It absolutely feels like it is set up for the split release. Which means the writers/producers probably knew the plan and accounted for it.

I was really impressed with the show, and I'll definitely catch the second half of this season and any further episodes they make. It's very much my style of D&D campaign: throw in everything, embrace the silliness, and don't be afraid to go really dark on occasion.

The language was a little coarser that. I generally see in my game, but in fairness one of my players is my 7yo so I think it's understandable.
 

DammitVictor

Druid of the Invisible Hand
"Review bombing" isn't a pejorative term. If someone watched the show and didn't like it, their 1 negative review isn't less valid because of the 10,000 people who gave it negative reviews, sight unseen, because half a dozen YouTube channels that receive funding from right-wing think tanks told them to.

Look, I gave the show an 8, not a 10. And that translates into understanding how someone can easily have given it a 6, or even a 4, based on feeling more strongly about the show's problems than I did or having a problem with factors I didn't have a problem with at all. Any single review who tries to claim it's a 1 out of 10 is a single bootlicking troll; any 1,000 reviews who try to claim it's a 1 out of 10 is still, probably, just a single bootlicking troll.
 

The Lizard Wizard

Adventurer
There was some sort of news outlet that broke the news that he was going to kill heman and basically replace him. He sent out his followers to destroy the story/outlet. Turns out it was true
So he tried to stop someone breaking a review embargo?

Also he lied that all the strong men characters would not be eliminated. Not even a secondary character. It’s basically Teelas show. Follow Kevin smiths Twitter. He went after almost everyone that criticized his show
He Man was in every episode so far. He's sacrificed his life to save Eternia, and thrown away heaven to come back and save the Universe again. (and we're only half way through the season) Seems like he's still the hero of the show to me.
 

DammitVictor

Druid of the Invisible Hand
He Man was in every episode so far. He's sacrificed his life to save Eternia, and thrown away heaven to come back and save the Universe again. (and we're only half way through the season) Seems like he's still the hero of the show to me.
Dan Slott's Superior Spider-Man was possibly the greatest love letter to Peter Parker in comics history because of how keenly Slott made Parker's absence felt in every single issue. It ran for far longer than anyone had expected or planned for, because the audience (mostly) loved it, but when Peter Parker eventually and inevitably returned... it made his return all the more triumphant.
 

Blue Orange

Adventurer
I thought that movie had traumatized a whole generation?

I don't know about 'traumatized'.

I was very upset when I watched Optimus Prime die at the age of 7. In 1986 nobody was allowed to die in a children's show. It was probably the worst thing that had happened to me at that age (yes, I had a very sheltered childhood). In retrospect it was probably a good thing in that it taught me (in a small, silly-in-retrospect way) that life doesn't always work out the way you want.

Life involves tragedy. Art (even of the popular, declasse variety) can help prepare you for that.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
"Review bombing" isn't a pejorative term. If someone watched the show and didn't like it, their 1 negative review isn't less valid because of the 10,000 people who gave it negative reviews, sight unseen, because half a dozen YouTube channels that receive funding from right-wing think tanks told them to.

Look, I gave the show an 8, not a 10. And that translates into understanding how someone can easily have given it a 6, or even a 4, based on feeling more strongly about the show's problems than I did or having a problem with factors I didn't have a problem with at all. Any single review who tries to claim it's a 1 out of 10 is a single bootlicking troll; any 1,000 reviews who try to claim it's a 1 out of 10 is still, probably, just a single bootlicking troll.

Yeah has to be very very bad to get 1/10 imho.
 






MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
I don’t know how something is legally or not legally a sequel? I’ve never heard of a legal definition of a sequel.
It is complicated. Universal owns the franchise, but they don't own the Classic series. Universal can make or license new content, as long as it is based on the toys, the comics and the media they actually own. To do a sequel to the classic series, they need to also license from whoever owns the rights to the Filmation series, because they don't own it. The legal mangle that is the franchise also means that there can't be any series in the future that feature both She-Ra and He-Man. Because these were sold off separately.
 

Tonguez

A suffusion of yellow
So he tried to stop someone breaking a review embargo?
It wasnt a review though, it was an opinion peice giving some predictions - those predictions were vehemently criticised by Smith but have now generally been proven accurate. The great irony of course is that if Kevin Smith had ignored them, then its most likely that most people wouldnt even know who they were or what they had said.

The whole thing highlights issues in the relationship between Creatives and Audience and the nature of influence in the Social Media age.
 

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