Thunderwave caltrops?

[DracoSuave]

Hell, with a good and hard roll on Arcana, I'd allow the player to blast the caltrops into enemies! (provided they're in range).

Cheers, LT.

This answer brings win.

 

[MarauderX]

This answer brings win.

Heheh, I agree.

The idea was that the party would be in combat, as strikers would be trying to pull them through the trapped hall. But before the fighter could go spending his HP on the traps down the hall, the wizard noticed the caltrops and thunderwaved them. Since it was a narrow hallway, it was pretty easy to assume where the caltrops would go.

 

[DracoSuave]

Heheh, I agree.

The idea was that the party would be in combat, as strikers would be trying to pull them through the trapped hall. But before the fighter could go spending his HP on the traps down the hall, the wizard noticed the caltrops and thunderwaved them. Since it was a narrow hallway, it was pretty easy to assume where the caltrops would go.

Sounds -exactly- like the sort of encounter Kobolds would invite.

 

[James McMurray]

As a wizard? What -else- are you doing with your minor actions at that point? Light? Prestitidigitation? This trap is an opener, not a closer, so you're not sustaining anything.

Spending a minor action to remove an obstacle for your melee seems like a great use of a minor action.

But that's just me. YMMV.

There's what, at least 20 caltrops per 5' square? If you've got that much time to remove them in combat, you probably don't need to remove them at all.

 

[Kishin]

Thunderwave em right into the enemy strikers. This is The Way, for the Way is the path of Style.

 

[DracoSuave]

There's what, at least 20 caltrops per 5' square? If you've got that much time to remove them in combat, you probably don't need to remove them at all.

To envision the concept of doing it in one go, place twenty smarties on your desk. Now, take your palm, and sweep across the desk in a sideways motion.

More adventuring parties need brooms is all I'm sayin'

 

[James McMurray]

My palm does not have to follow the rules that Mage Hand has to follow. You're free to house rule it, but the Mage Hand in the book manipulates things up one at a time as a minor action, moves them one at a time as a move action, and drops them one at a time as a free action.

 

[Nail]

More adventuring parties need brooms is all I'm sayin'

The broom is the new 4e 10-ft pole!

 

[DracoSuave]

My palm does not have to follow the rules that Mage Hand has to follow. You're free to house rule it, but the Mage Hand in the book manipulates things up one at a time as a minor action, moves them one at a time as a move action, and drops them one at a time as a free action.

And said thing can be a wide object that can be used like a broom.

Such as a broom.

 

[Mathew_Freeman]

Well, even after sweeping them away, the caltrops end up somewhere, so it's more like caltrop moving than caltrop sweeping. And while thunderwave allows you to control the place where enemies end up, controlling dozens of caltrops is a bit harder. I'd say the player should roll for Arcana (pg. 42 for DCs) to exactly place them, otherwise I'd some end up around the blast.

Hell, with a good and hard roll on Arcana, I'd allow the player to blast the caltrops into enemies! (provided they're in range).

This wins, on the basis of the Rule Of Cool.

I really need to get my players to start playing in that sort of style... first step is to give them more things to play with, of course...