Tumbling and Defensive Casting DCs

[SableWyvern]

I'm not sure if it was on the old or new boards, but a while ago I saw some official/semi-official rules posted regarding variable DCs for Tumbling and Defensive Casting.

Could someone put these up again, or point me in the direction of original post?

Thanks.

 

[hong]

There are optional rules for opposed Tumbling in S&S, and S&F. The S&S rule involves the defender making a Ref save at DC equal to the Tumble check result. The S&F rule (essentially) involves opposed Tumble checks.

Or you could use Monte Cook's house rule where the Tumble check is opposed by an attack roll.

 

[SableWyvern]

The rules I was thinking of related to DCs being based on opponents' attack rolls, with some sort of modifiers (IIRC). The same system was applied to tumbles and defensive casting.

Could I get a link to Monte Cook's rule? Or any other info?

 

[Christian]

http://www.montecook.com/arch_dmonly5.html

 

[Crothian]

the system works well, better then the low DCs especially at higher levels. By 8th level our monk had +16 (11 ranks, 20 dex) so he just tumbles all over the place by the old rules.

 

[creepy]

It was probably posted earlier by KarinsDad. Concentration is simply treated the same as Tumbling (S&S optional rule) If you cast defensively then your opponent gets a reflex save to hit you. The DC is the total of your concentration roll.

 

[SableWyvern]

Thanks guys.

Monte Cook's rule was the one I was looking for.