unarmed ninja?

[RigaMortus2]

oh and about the Ascetic Stalker, that basically means that on a monk/ninja build I'll use the chracter lvl to calculate everything right?

Well... Not everything... I believe Ascetic Stalker only increases your unarmed strike damage, and your ki pool. It won't, for example, affect other factors such as Monk speed increase and other class abilities (ie Abundant Step).

 

[Enforcer]

Well... Not everything... I believe Ascetic Stalker only increases your unarmed strike damage, and your ki pool. It won't, for example, affect other factors such as Monk speed increase and other class abilities (ie Abundant Step).

This is correct, I was mistaken in my last post.

 

[RigaMortus2]

This is correct, I was mistaken in my last post.

So you have to decide whether to mainly level as Ninja, and get all those really cool Ninja abilities (and expanded ghost step/ki abilities) or level up as Monk and get all thier cool abilities... I think I would choose the path of the Ninja

 

[RigaMortus2]

FWIW, here is my current (haven't refined it just yet) "Ninja" build. And by "Ninja" I mean in theme, not in class name...

Human
Swordsage 13/Rogue 2/Warlock 2/Bloodclaw Master 3
Progression: Swordsage 1/Rogue 2/Warlock 2/SS +4/BCM 3/SS +8

Ability Scores
TBD

BAB +13/+8/+3

Fort +7
Ref +14
Will +12

Feats
(H) Adaptive Style
(1) Extra Readied Maneuver
(3) Two-Weapon Fighting
(6) Shadow Blade
(9) ???
(12) Gloom Razor (mainly for Shadow Slip)
(15) ITWF (+6 BAB)
(18) GTWF (+11 BAB)

Skills: Balance, Concentration, Hide, Jump, Martial Lore, Move Silently, Tumble

Weapon of Choice: Daggers (dual wielded)

Invocations
Leaps & Bounds
Spiderwalk

Class Abilities
Sneak Attack +1d6 (+4d6 w/ Assassin’s Stance)
Trap Finding
Evasion
Eldritch Blast +1d6 (think of a "ki blast" like Ken/Ryu from Street Fighter)
Detect Magic
Quick to Act +3
Discipline Focus (Weapon Focus) [Shadow Hand]
AC Bonus (Wis)
Discipline Focus (Insightful Strike) [Shadow Hand]
Sense Magic
Discipline Focus (Defensive Stance) [???]
Discipline Focus (Insightful Strike) [???]
Shifting 2/day
Claws of the Beast
Superior TWF
Tiger Claw synergy (stance)
Pouncing Strike
Low-light vision

Swordsage Initiator Level 18 (up to 9th level maneuvers)
Maneuvers/Stances
20 known /11 readied /4 stances
Maneuvers (® = Readied)
Sapphire Nightmare Blade (Strike) [DM 1]
Mighty Throw (Strike) [SS 1]
Sudden Leap (Boost) [TC 1]
® Cloak of Deception (Boost) [SH 2]
® Mind over Body (Counter) [DM 3]
Death Mark (Strike) [DW 3] (swap Distracting Embers)
Comet Throw (Strike) [SS 4]
Obscuring Shadow Veil (Strike) [SH 4] (swap Shadow Blade Technique)
Dancing Mongoose (Boost) [TC 5]
Pouncing Charge (Strike) [TC 5]
® Ballista Throw (Strike) [SS 6]
® Hydra Slaying Strike (Strike) [SS 7]
® Shadow Blink [SH 7] (swap out Shadow Jaunt)
® Bloodletting Strike (Strike) [SH 5]
® Enervating Shadow Strike (Strike) [SH 8]
® Raging Mongoose (Boost) [TC 8] (swap Wolf Fang Strike)
One with Shadow (Counter) [SH 8]
® Five-Shadow Creeping Ice Enervation Strike (Strike) [SH 9]
® Feral Death Blow (Strike) [TC 9] (swap Claw at the Moon)
® Tornado Strike (Strike) [SS 9]
Stances
Island of Blades
Child of Shadow
Assassin’s Stance
Step of the Dancing Moth

 

[Enforcer]

I'm not that familiar with Tome of Battle, so I assume that the above will be pretty cool. The only problem is that your Base Attack Bonus will suck for the first five levels--+2, equal to a 5th level Wizard's BAB. With Two-Weapon Fighting in the mix, you'll be struggling to hit, though at least eldritch blast is a touch attack.

 

[Razz]

You can take the feat Martial Stalker from Complete Scoundrel, make a Ninja/Fighter, and take the feats Improved Unarmed Strike and Superior Unarmed Strike (from Tome of Battle) and you'd have a pretty good unarmed character right there.