D&D (2024) Uncommon items - actually common?

[Jfdlsjfd]

Not according to the 5e core rules. Those places don't call it the weave, but the magic comes from something somewhere which is the equivalent. 5e changed a lot, just like Eberron is part of the multiverse now.

According to KB, all magic (whether arcane or divine) in Eberron comes from an energy field countained and created by the Ring of Siberys. One might as well call it the Weave, except it's described, for arcane magic, as purely scientific interactions with it, and not controlled by a god, but that's a minor detail. The idea probably predates 5e.

So yes: In Eberron, you can make a cleric of ANYTHING. With that said, the description here makes clear what you’re doing. You may worship your shoe, but your shoe isn’t what’s granting you magic; you are bypassing the divine power sources and drawing your power straight from the Ring of Siberys, which as I mentioned above is essentially the source of all magic. Beyond this, I’d note the following…

 

[Minigiant]

Well, no. If gods could dictate what components were used in divine spells, each god would have different components for the same spells. The god of trade would use coins to cast suggestion, the god of murder a dagger, the god of nature an herb that influences, and so on.

The gods don't dictate which components are used. Either the Weave(magic) does on its own, or the god of magic would.

That's why only one god has the power.

Each Portfolio grants you and actual power in the setter.

The God of Magic controls the Magical Interface.

The God of Trade/Wealth control monetary transactions between that Magical interface, the Material world, and the Divine.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Not according to the 5e core rules. Those places don't call it the weave, but the magic comes from something somewhere which is the equivalent. 5e changed a lot, just like Eberron is part of the multiverse now.

Worse thing in 5e, making the weave a thing across worlds.

I find the concept so deeply unimaginative.

 

[Minigiant]

Worse thing in 5e, making the weave a thing across worlds.

I find the concept so deeply unimaginative.

The "Weave" is not a thing across worlds.

However every setting (with magic spells) has some "thing" that acts as an important lynchpin, language, or focal point that links all magic spells.

 

[tetrasodium]

Not according to the 5e core rules. Those places don't call it the weave, but the magic comes from something somewhere which is the equivalent. 5e changed a lot, just like Eberron is part of the multiverse now.

Thanks for demonstrating why some FR superfan should never have been allowed unchecked access to insert lore into the mechanics and why it should have been fixed during editing. I've been an eberron GM trying to correct someone about FR lore like the weave being printed in places it had no business being printed only to get that quoted response or similar.

I would probably say the same about doing it with darksun too but 5e is too violently in conflict with that settting's baselines for me to trybashing my head against that combo.

 

[Maxperson]

According to KB, all magic (whether arcane or divine) in Eberron comes from an energy field countained and created by the Ring of Siberys. One might as well call it the Weave, except it's described, for arcane magic, as purely scientific interactions with it, and not controlled by a god, but that's a minor detail. The idea probably predates 5e.

Right. The Weave exists by all kinds of names, but it exists there and in Dark Sun. Otherwise magic doesn't exist or your local DM homebrewed something.

 

[Maxperson]

Thanks for demonstrating why some FR superfan should never have been allowed unchecked access to insert lore into the mechanics and why it should have been fixed during editing. I've been an eberron GM trying to correct someone about FR lore like the weave being printed in places it had no business being printed only to get that quoted response or similar.

First, I get the aggravation at the changes to Eberron. That said, the Weave is a concept not a specific thing. Weave = source of magic for the setting, whatever you want to call it. FR just calls it the Weave.

 

[Maxperson]

Worse thing in 5e, making the weave a thing across worlds.

I find the concept so deeply unimaginative.

Magic exists across worlds, though, so the source of magic for each world has to come from somewhere. That's the "Weave" or the "Loom" or the "Lion of Akados" or maybe it doesn't even have a name. The Weave wasn't made a thing across worlds. The concept already existed across worlds. WotC just used the FR term for it due to ease of use.

 

[Maxperson]

That's why only one god has the power.

Each Portfolio grants you and actual power in the setter.

The God of Magic controls the Magical Interface.

The God of Trade/Wealth control monetary transactions between that Magical interface, the Material world, and the Divine.

That's cool world building, but it's not the default for D&D.

 

[tetrasodium]

Right. The Weave exists by all kinds of names, but it exists there and in Dark Sun. Otherwise magic doesn't exist or your local DM homebrewed something.

No,,, "The Weave" is a specific & fairly deep bit of FR specific lore linked to FR specific gods through that FR specific lore. Magic on Athas is extremely different and those differences are a big part of the setting.

First, I get the aggravation at the changes to Eberron. That said, the Weave is a concept not a specific thing. Weave = source of magic for the setting, whatever you want to call it. FR just calls it the Weave.

Attempting to shoehorn FR lore into every other setting displaces the lore & setting baselines of those other settings. You are further demonstrating why it should never have been printed in the PHB as it was