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H.P lovecraft gets a pass apparently because he's dead and his stuff is in the public domain but his works get brought up on here often and no one bats an eye or objects. As Spock once said "all things being equal" it wouldn't get brought up at all, but it's an unequal world we live in.

I also fully understand i'm engaging in whataboutism on this.Anyway, i think we've drifted enough from the topic of this thread.

I was in middle school when the first book came out and the reaction then was "ahh witchcraft, ban the book!"
Reading Lovecraft's fear of the other into his works is trivial, but has been done to death online, and in documentaries about his works. I was a backer, for this one, when they finally got the rights back from an unscrupulous distributor and expanded upon their original work.

 

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Oh, I don’t think either book is trying to hide its provenance, and I remember making fun of them with my friends when they came out*. But my opinion is that they’re incoherent to the point of unreadability, not meant for publication and honestly a rather saddening and involuntary addition to Tolkien’s bibliography. I rather hope that the Pratchett family don’t do the same, for instance. If they already have, I’m sorry to hear it.

*Just noticed that they came out in 1977 and 1980, rather earlier than I thought - the republished paperback editions?
You are completely wrong here. Tolkien intended to publish the Silmarillion, but never managed to finish it. The material did not come from the wastepaper basket, it came from the unfinished manuscript. The History of Middle Earth series is closer to what you are accusing Christopher Tolkien of here.
 

Reading Lovecraft's fear of the other into his works is trivial, but has been done to death online, and in documentaries about his works. I was a backer, for this one, when they finally got the rights back from an unscrupulous distributor and expanded upon their original work.

Yeah. The racism in H. P. Lovecraft isn’t even subtle. It’s the lowest of low hanging fruit to try to pretend it’s hard to see and offer an analysis of it. Far more interesting, I think, is the fear of nihilism and sci-fi horror elements of his work.
 


Yeah. The racism in H. P. Lovecraft isn’t even subtle. It’s the lowest of low hanging fruit to try to pretend it’s hard to see and offer an analysis of it. Far more interesting, I think, is the fear of nihilism and sci-fi horror elements of his work.
There's also the less than subtle classism. He was afraid of fishermen and people who lived in small towns.
 


I think superhero media is inherently more interesting than fantasy.

The Silver Age of comics is the best age by far. It’s not even close.

People who like superhero fantasy games would like actual superhero games far more.

The best Marvel movies are the one that are more than just a superhero movie. Ant Man is great because it’s a superhero heist movie. Guardians of the Galaxy is great because it’s a superhero comedy.

For something to be superhero media the characters have to actually be superheroes. People with powers and government blackops wetworks with powers are two separate and distinct genres.
 
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You are completely wrong here. Tolkien intended to publish the Silmarillion, but never managed to finish it. The material did not come from the wastepaper basket, it came from the unfinished manuscript. The History of Middle Earth series is closer to what you are accusing Christopher Tolkien of here.
Mmm, that is a highly debatable contention at best, honestly. Certainly Tolkien wanted to publish some version of the Simarillion at various times - the first as early as 1937, before even the Lord of the Rings - but it was rejected twice and he shelved it and worked on LotR instead. He then changed his views on the backstory of Middle Earth significantly through the 40s and 50s and didn’t really have a final publishable version available before he died. The 1977 version, which is mostly what we have now, is half him and half his son Chris and Guy Gabriel Kay working on his later notes. Chris Tolkien admits that he wrote much of it from scratch and would probably have written a different version at a different time. It’s necromancy.
 

Mmm, that is a highly debatable contention at best, honestly. Certainly Tolkien wanted to publish some version of the Simarillion at various times - the first as early as 1937, before even the Lord of the Rings - but it was rejected twice and he shelved it and worked on LotR instead. He then changed his views on the backstory of Middle Earth significantly through the 40s and 50s and didn’t really have a final publishable version available before he died. The 1977 version, which is mostly what we have now, is half him and half Guy Gabriel Kay working on his later notes. It’s necromancy.
He worked on it until he died, always intending to get it to a state the publisher would accept. "Necromancy" or note, it absolutely did not come from the wastebin. That's nonsense, mean revisionism.
 

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