[UPDATED AGAIN] Gary Gygax's Widow & TSR Settle Trademark Dispute

Gail Gygax has just sent me a short statement regarding the resolution of a trademark dispute between herself and the owners of Gygax Magazine. Gail is, of course, the late Gary Gygax's wife, and some of the owners of the magazine are his sons [update - both left the company a while back]. A quick look at USPTO.gov reveals the trademark application by Gail Gygax in 2013, which I'm given to understand was challenged by TSR, Inc. that same year. TSR, Inc. was formed a couple of years ago to produce the (at the time) new Gygax Magazine; it's not the original TSR founded in 1973 and sold to WotC in 1997. The statement reads as follows.

Gail Gygax has just sent me a short statement regarding the resolution of a trademark dispute between herself and the owners of Gygax Magazine. Gail is, of course, the late Gary Gygax's wife, and some of the owners of the magazine are his sons [update - both left the company a while back]. A quick look at USPTO.gov reveals the trademark application by Gail Gygax in 2013, which I'm given to understand was challenged by TSR, Inc. that same year. TSR, Inc. was formed a couple of years ago to produce the (at the time) new Gygax Magazine; it's not the original TSR founded in 1973 and sold to WotC in 1997. The statement reads as follows.

The Gail C. Gygax Revocable Trust, owner of the intellectual property of the late E. Gary Gygax, and TSR, Inc., a corporation formed by Jayson Elliot, Tim Kask, Ernie Gygax, Luke Gygax and James Carpio have reached a mutually agreeable resolution of their trademark dispute at the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Pursuant to their agreement, the Trust will license the Gygax Magazine trademark to TSR on a non-exclusive basis.

UPDATE: I've been informed by a representative of Luke and Ernie Gygax that both of them left the company. Mrs. Gygax reached a settlement with TSR, Inc., and Luke and Ernie have both withdrawn from TSR as a result of the settlement. Neither of them are affiliated with the company any longer.

Ernie Gygax has now made a public Facebook post about the matter which makes it clear that this settlement was not arrived at amicably.

It is with a heavy heart that I have had to remove myself from TSR and GYGAX magazine. Benoist and I will continue to share original old school gaming. All of which I learned at my fathers side, just as Luke and I also learned how to repair shoes in our youth. I am awake now at 2:42 AM as foolishness infringes on my ability to even enjoy a sound nights rest. I am proud to one of Gary's many offspring and just wish that I had his drive and fortitude to generate material as he did. Yet the acorn doesn't fall far from the Oak and the work that will be created will be in honor of his memory. I wish it to be said that both Tim Kask and R Scott Taylor refused to sign the deal as well when asked.

So it sounds like both parties have reached an agreement, that's it's far from amicable, that Gail Gygax's trust owns the Gygax trademark, but that the trademark is licensed to TSR, Inc. The statement doesn't indicate how long that license is for, or whether any other terms are attached. And, of course, the trademarked name is the actual name of Gygax's sons Luke and Ernie, which is why they refused sign the settlement.

You can see the trademark applications here at USPTO.gov. Gail Gygax made an application on March 4th, 2013. Gygax Magazine #1 was released the month before that, in February 2013. TSR, Inc made an application for the same trademark on September 30th, 2013. There are some similar entries for other dates.

You'll find Gygax Magazine here. It appears that Gail's trust also made an application for Gygaxian on August 7th this year.

A little background - I know most who read this know who Gary Gygax was, but new people are coming into the hobby all the time. This is the super-short version. Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson (both sadly passed) co-created Dungeons & Dragons back in the 1970s. The whole history of Gygax and TSR is fraught with conflict - Gary was ousted from the original TSR, he and Arneson fell out, and of course Gail Gygax and the new TSR, Inc. (which until recently included Gary's sons Luke and Ernie) have been embroiled in the above legal dispute for two years. This long interview with Gary Gygax is a fascinating read. The whole history has been, to put it mildly, litigious!


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delericho

Legend
Gary's last name is more than just a last name now shared with his sons, it's a trademark. That's part of the deal when you become famous! And Gary's wife, Gail, has every right to want to retain and control that trademark, even over any rights his son's might claim.

Except that she apparently applied for the Trademark in March 2013 and Gygax Magazine #1 was released in Feb of that year. It's lucky the settlement suits everyone, because otherwise it might have gotten... interesting.
 

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Morrus

Well, that was fun
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[UPDATED] Gary Gygax's Widow & TSR Settle Trademark Dispute

Except that she apparently applied for the Trademark in March 2013 and Gygax Magazine #1 was released in Feb of that year. It's lucky the settlement suits everyone, because otherwise it might have gotten... interesting.

If I had to guess, it's that it took her by surprise. When it appeared suddenly with the TSR and Gygax names etc, folks were very "WTH?!"

We didn't even know Luke and Ernie were involved at first. I uncovered Jayson Elliot's connection by checking domain names. I tried to contact him at the time, but got no reply.

It doesn't seem like there's much goodwill anywhere in this whole situation.
 
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delericho

Legend
If I had to guess, it's that it took her by surprise. When it appeared suddenly with the TSR and Gygax names etc, folks were very "WTH?!"

Indeed. But, of course, the law doesn't really care about 'surprise' - either what TSR did was legal or it was not. And I think it was probably legal, but of course IANAL.
 

Nikosandros

Golden Procrastinator
Do you really know that? Or, perhaps, is Gail and her partners working on things you just aren't aware of? I don't know. You don't either.

Well, Gygax Games site has been in suspended animation for what? 6-7 years? Maybe they're working on something super-secret and one day we'll see the super deluxe edition of Castle Zagyg. I'm highly skeptical, but I'll be glad to be proven wrong.
 

Mark CMG

Creative Mountain Games
Gail, Gary's widow, had certain goals and desires


Such as? Aside from the memorial statue for which the Gygax Memorial Fund was conceived and started in 2010 to solicit donations (and was given the go-ahead with its location of Donian Park in 2011), I'm not aware of any use being made of the IP.
 

I've read the first 4 issues of Gygax Magazine. It struck me as a magazine not sure what it is trying to be and trying to cover way to many different and diverse RPGs, making the magazine as a whole feel really disjointed. I can't see myself getting any more issues.
 



JohnRTroy

Adventurer
One thing people really need to remember is that regardless of whether or not people approve of Gail actions (or inactions), there's a bunch of stuff people need to remember.

Gail was Gary's wife for over 20 years.

Gary incorporated all his writings post-TSR to Gail.

Gail did a lot of work behind the scenes to make sure Gary could afford to keep writing.

It's pretty clear that Gary left all his IP and works to Gail, not any other Gygax family member.

Luke and Ernie weren't not really involved in Gary's creative endeavors. That's a fact. Post-TSR they really didn't contribute a lot to Gary's creative endeavors. Luke played in Gary's DJ and LA campaigns, while Ernie stuck to board games. I could understand if they were working on products for him and suddenly Gail cut them out, but that's not the reality of the situation. It was only after Gary had died that they started getting involved in the games industry again.

It's very easy to look at the "legacy" of the game and look up to Luke and Ernie for playing Melf and Tenser, but that's more of a projection we the fans make. Note that nobody ever goes and tries to find Alex Gygax since he wasn't part of that D&D legacy--no Greyhawk item for him. But playing a game doesn't mean you inherited the business. And many of us don't know the behind the scenes stuff involving family entanglements or disagreements. And many people look at their own subjective views--Luke and Ernie are doing stuff we gamers like, Gail is not, and judge on that merit, but that's mostly on our own desires for Gary's legacy than any form of objectivity about deeper moral or legal issues involved.

It's sad that there's a rift, disagreements, etc. But it is what it is.
 
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