[UPDATED AGAIN] Gary Gygax's Widow & TSR Settle Trademark Dispute

Gail Gygax has just sent me a short statement regarding the resolution of a trademark dispute between herself and the owners of Gygax Magazine. Gail is, of course, the late Gary Gygax's wife, and some of the owners of the magazine are his sons [update - both left the company a while back]. A quick look at USPTO.gov reveals the trademark application by Gail Gygax in 2013, which I'm given to understand was challenged by TSR, Inc. that same year. TSR, Inc. was formed a couple of years ago to produce the (at the time) new Gygax Magazine; it's not the original TSR founded in 1973 and sold to WotC in 1997. The statement reads as follows.

Gail Gygax has just sent me a short statement regarding the resolution of a trademark dispute between herself and the owners of Gygax Magazine. Gail is, of course, the late Gary Gygax's wife, and some of the owners of the magazine are his sons [update - both left the company a while back]. A quick look at USPTO.gov reveals the trademark application by Gail Gygax in 2013, which I'm given to understand was challenged by TSR, Inc. that same year. TSR, Inc. was formed a couple of years ago to produce the (at the time) new Gygax Magazine; it's not the original TSR founded in 1973 and sold to WotC in 1997. The statement reads as follows.

The Gail C. Gygax Revocable Trust, owner of the intellectual property of the late E. Gary Gygax, and TSR, Inc., a corporation formed by Jayson Elliot, Tim Kask, Ernie Gygax, Luke Gygax and James Carpio have reached a mutually agreeable resolution of their trademark dispute at the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Pursuant to their agreement, the Trust will license the Gygax Magazine trademark to TSR on a non-exclusive basis.

UPDATE: I've been informed by a representative of Luke and Ernie Gygax that both of them left the company. Mrs. Gygax reached a settlement with TSR, Inc., and Luke and Ernie have both withdrawn from TSR as a result of the settlement. Neither of them are affiliated with the company any longer.

Ernie Gygax has now made a public Facebook post about the matter which makes it clear that this settlement was not arrived at amicably.

It is with a heavy heart that I have had to remove myself from TSR and GYGAX magazine. Benoist and I will continue to share original old school gaming. All of which I learned at my fathers side, just as Luke and I also learned how to repair shoes in our youth. I am awake now at 2:42 AM as foolishness infringes on my ability to even enjoy a sound nights rest. I am proud to one of Gary's many offspring and just wish that I had his drive and fortitude to generate material as he did. Yet the acorn doesn't fall far from the Oak and the work that will be created will be in honor of his memory. I wish it to be said that both Tim Kask and R Scott Taylor refused to sign the deal as well when asked.

So it sounds like both parties have reached an agreement, that's it's far from amicable, that Gail Gygax's trust owns the Gygax trademark, but that the trademark is licensed to TSR, Inc. The statement doesn't indicate how long that license is for, or whether any other terms are attached. And, of course, the trademarked name is the actual name of Gygax's sons Luke and Ernie, which is why they refused sign the settlement.

You can see the trademark applications here at USPTO.gov. Gail Gygax made an application on March 4th, 2013. Gygax Magazine #1 was released the month before that, in February 2013. TSR, Inc made an application for the same trademark on September 30th, 2013. There are some similar entries for other dates.

You'll find Gygax Magazine here. It appears that Gail's trust also made an application for Gygaxian on August 7th this year.

A little background - I know most who read this know who Gary Gygax was, but new people are coming into the hobby all the time. This is the super-short version. Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson (both sadly passed) co-created Dungeons & Dragons back in the 1970s. The whole history of Gygax and TSR is fraught with conflict - Gary was ousted from the original TSR, he and Arneson fell out, and of course Gail Gygax and the new TSR, Inc. (which until recently included Gary's sons Luke and Ernie) have been embroiled in the above legal dispute for two years. This long interview with Gary Gygax is a fascinating read. The whole history has been, to put it mildly, litigious!


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Maxperson

Morkus from Orkus
Sorry man. I just don't agree with you.

Since you continue to say that this is not our business, I will rebuttal with our concern is not your business.

I very much look forward to Gail's responses in regards to the memorial.

The fans can never own something that they don't actually own. What you are doing is trying to say that possession is 9/10 of the law, when in reality it's just theft. You can own a D&D book. You can own your private additions to the game. You can own your enjoyment of what the legacy owners give you. You can't ever own the D&D legacy, though. It's not yours. It has never been yours. It will never be yours.
 
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Cody C. Lewis

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The fans can never own something that they don't actually own. What you are doing is trying to say that possession is 9/10 of the law, when in reality it's just theft. You can own a D&D book. You can own your private additions to the game. You can own your enjoyment of what the legacy owners give you. You can't ever own the D&D legacy, though. It's not yours. It has never been yours. It will never be yours.

Ok.
 

JohnRTroy

Adventurer
Luke & Ernie Gygax wrote Lost City of Gaxmoor - http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/classic/rev_6613.phtml - I remember giving my
account of GMing it on ENW, and Gary Gygax told me it made him consider playing 3e
D&D! :) They were definitely involved with Troll Lord Games and the RPG industry.
Gary Gygax was a co-writer on Gaxmoor with them, he provided details on the magic statues.

I had mentioned that. I enjoyed Lost City of Gaxmoor, Gary was very proud of that, and I think all the Gygax sons have talent. I am honestly looking forward to seeing Ernie's tomb, which I backed as a Kickstarter. But Lost City of Gaxmoor was the brothers creative endeavor, not Gary's.

The point of my statement was solely based on people saying things like "Luke and Ernie are more deserving of the Trademark than Gail" or other variants. I simply pointed out two important things...there has not been a lot of output directly from either of them on their own as Game Designers (Gaxmoor and the Gamma World module are the two that come to mind), so the fame to surname Gygax is Gary--when you hear the name by itself, do you think of Gaxmoor and Sagard the Barbarian first, or Tomb of Horrors and the DMG? And secondly that if you want to argue participation in Gary's creative work from a business perspective, they didn't do things like co-write projects with him and his company. The biggest credits in a lot of Gary's work was mostly Luke being a campaign/playtest participant in the adventures he wrote.

Don't confuse those points with any judgement on their talent. I think Luke does a great job leading GaryCon, and I think Ernie's going to be very successful in his creative endeavors based on the positive response to his Kickstarter. I simply think when it comes to holding a Trademark on the solo "Gygax" in gaming related fields, it should go to who Gary willed his IP/Estate to.
 

S'mon

Legend
I had mentioned that. I enjoyed Lost City of Gaxmoor, Gary was very proud of that, and I think all the Gygax sons have talent. I am honestly looking forward to seeing Ernie's tomb, which I backed as a Kickstarter. But Lost City of Gaxmoor was the brothers creative endeavor, not Gary's.

The point of my statement was solely based on people saying things like "Luke and Ernie are more deserving of the Trademark than Gail" or other variants. I simply pointed out two important things...there has not been a lot of output directly from either of them on their own as Game Designers (Gaxmoor and the Gamma World module are the two that come to mind), so the fame to surname Gygax is Gary--when you hear the name by itself, do you think of Gaxmoor and Sagard the Barbarian first, or Tomb of Horrors and the DMG? And secondly that if you want to argue participation in Gary's creative work from a business perspective, they didn't do things like co-write projects with him and his company. The biggest credits in a lot of Gary's work was mostly Luke being a campaign/playtest participant in the adventures he wrote.

Don't confuse those points with any judgement on their talent. I think Luke does a great job leading GaryCon, and I think Ernie's going to be very successful in his creative endeavors based on the positive response to his Kickstarter. I simply think when it comes to holding a Trademark on the solo "Gygax" in gaming related fields, it should go to who Gary willed his IP/Estate to.

As far as Trademark law goes, Luke & Ernie have rights to market themselves under their own name (in the UK it's section 11 (2) (a) of the 1994 Trade Marks Act) independent of any rights possessed by Gail Gygax. The way things are going I suspect her rights in the registered mark are going to be liable to revocation for non-use, but we'll see.
 

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