Vote for the Most Powerful Arcane Spell Level...(?)

[Jimlock]

Which arcane spell level features the most spells (and which are they?), that are disproportionately powerful for their given level?

Example: We say for example that "Web" is too powerful for being a 2nd Lvl spell only...


Perhaps it's a lame pole... but i'm curious of what you guys have to say...

Multiple choice possible...

Please explain if you can...

 

[Jimlock]

Is the question unclear?

 

[Tovec]

Wish, limited wish - everything beyond the flavour text allowing you to replicate (even divine spells) of lower level. That's powerful for any spell level, even ninth. In fact its often vetoed or banned or greatly houseruled in our games for that exact reason. Web, not so much.

 

[Jimlock]

Wish, limited wish - everything beyond the flavour text allowing you to replicate (even divine spells) of lower level. That's powerful for any spell level, even ninth. In fact its often vetoed or banned or greatly houseruled in our games for that exact reason. Web, not so much.

yeah, well ok sure.... I thought of mentioning that wish and miracle are excluded from the poll... but then again... despite their power they are really costly spells... Not to mention that 9th level is the last level...so it's natural to have such spells...there's no cap...

However there are some spells in low levels that allow arcane spell casters to perform incredible feats in respect to more powerful spells...

Another great example is invisibility!

I mean ...ok sure you get Greater Invisibility etc.. In greater levels...
but the fact that a 3rd level character can actually go invisible!! I mean think of the possibilities!

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

I'm going to have to go with 9th, unless I'm misunderstanding the purpose of your poll.

In addition to the already mentioned Wish, you've got Genesis. It really doesn't get any more powerful than remaking reality, or just making your own from scratch.

 

[Jimlock]

I voted for 2nd level spells.

Why?


-Invisibility

-Alter Self

-See Invisibility

-Touch of Idiocy

-Minor Image (ok silent image is even greater for a 1st lvl spell...but combined with sound...it's too good!)

-Rope Trick (For blocking Divination...among other uses...)

-Levitate

-Web

-Glitterdust

 

[PureGoldx58]

5th level, Feeblemind is uber.

 

[Visigani]

First level spells. EVERY arcane spellcaster has access to them, so they should be almost pitable. Despite this you have spells like mage armor, magic missile.

Hell, just look at Prot. from Evil... it gives +2 to AC, +2 to Saves and has a bunch of bonus utility functions.

Don't even get me started on Charm person.

If you were the only person in the Kingdom who could cast Charm person... YOU would be King.

It goes on down the line... Unseen Servant (endless uses for this), disguise self...

YOU CAN SUMMON BEINGS FROM AN ALTERNATE REALITY.. and it's a level 1 spell.


Level 1 is where it's at, I've got two turn tables and a microphone.

 

[Hassassin]

Why is level 0 missing? That's the difference between magic and no magic.

Edit: [MENTION=6676235]Visigani[/MENTION], Bards do not have 1st level spells until 2nd (or 3rd with Cha 11) level.

 

[Visigani]

I don't consider bards arcane spellcasters. Because they're dumbfaces.