D&D 3E/3.5 Vote for your favorite core Class!!! (3.5)

[Pergentile]

Yes, a bad DM would say "You can't do that.
A good DM would say "Okay, but remember there are consequences for your actions..." OH you just lost all of your Paladin class features because your alignment has swayed to Lawful Neutral.

 

[Jimlock]

Yes, a bad DM would say "You can't do that.
A good DM would say "Okay, but remember there are consequences for your actions..." OH you just lost all of your Paladin class features because your alignment has swayed to Lawful Neutral.

Yes, but there should be some tolerance as far as the Paladin's actions are concerned. It's not fair that he gets penalized for every bit of action/decision/thinking that does not follow his code. Not in a sense that he should be allowed to break it... but in a sense that he is human after all (well not literally), as in his is not perfect.
This of course requires some good RPplaying from the part of the player as well... If the player breaks the code without making the paladin feel for his actions... well, then the DM should give him that line.

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

Well it's not an assumption based solely on the poll's info. I've heard quite a few players saying "Naaah i'm not playing one again... too many restrictions!"

...and i was wondering how these restrictions are played out in various game groups...

A class can get a bad name for either not being effective (in terms of mechanical gameplay) or because people simply don't appreciate the "flavor" of the class..

It somehow seems to me that the paladin gets a third reason for not being likable (the morality restrictions)...

perhaps i'm wrong

This is pretty much why I dislike the idea of playing the classic Paladin, as well as the people I play alongside feel similarly.

Which is why you have all the Variant Paladins: CN Anarch, CG Avenger, NG Sentinel and N Incarnate from Dragon Mag. 310. There's also the variant Evil ones from Dragon Mag. 312. I've seen a guy have a great time playing an Paladin Incarnate with an Elemental Companion. There's the CG Paladin of Freedom in Unearthed Arcana, and the Evil variants.

 

[Rhun]

Paladins really aren't any more difficult to play than a cleric, IMO. The fact is, they should follow the tenets of their god, and act in the best interest of their religion. I've never understood the need for some DMs to put everything a paladin does under a microscope.

 

[Jimlock]

Paladins really aren't any more difficult to play than a cleric, IMO. The fact is, they should follow the tenets of their god, and act in the best interest of their religion. I've never understood the need for some DMs to put everything a paladin does under a microscope.

This is very true. A good aligned cleric does not differ much from a paladin... yet somehow a lot of people take it that the paladin is more restricted!...

Perhaps the DMs are not necessarily the ones to blame.
Perhaps all this stems from some irresponsible PRing from the part of fighter-ish gamers/hack-n-slashers...who took the paladin for his cool powers (2e), without paying any attention to what he really is.
...And consequently their DMs got back at them...quite harshly indeed.
This is perhaps another way to explain the Paladin's reputation....

 

[Jimlock]

The wizard ...just won't let go!!

 

[Rhun]

Perhaps the DMs are not necessarily the ones to blame.
Perhaps all this stems from some irresponsible PRing from the part of fighter-ish gamers/hack-n-slashers...who took the paladin for his cool powers (2e), without paying any attention to what he really is.
...And consequently their DMs got back at them...quite harshly indeed.
This is perhaps another way to explain the Paladin's reputation....

Quite possible. With that said in 1E/2E, paladins were certainly superior to a standard fighter, and I think that many DMs made the decision that since they were superior, they should have to suffer severely. And I think this carried over into 3.x, even though the paladin is no longer necessarily superior to any other martial class.

 

[MadLuke]

Favourite class

The truth is I have no favourite class (all of them great, except sorcerer), but Shaneera is my favourite character of all my D&D player career...And she's a bard.

Bye MadLuke.

 

[Jimlock]

and I think that many DMs made the decision that since they were superior, they should have to suffer severely.

true.... with the exception of ravenloft campaigns... there the DM was most likely to cheat.... so that the Paladin remains alive..

 

[Jimlock]

(all of them great, except sorcerer)

The sorcerers suck big time.

I would have torn the pages from the PHB ........ but unfortunately the text on Familiars is on the same page as the sorcerer... (damn!).....