Caliban said:
I'm not sure what your point is here. So what if it is needed for multiple things?
Just saying, that the existance of its mentioning does not automatically imply what you are saying, since there is at least one other obvious use for that part.
Ah, no that is incorrect. Touch spells are not only melee touch attacks. From that same section, on page 141: "Touch Attacks come in two types: melee touch attacks ... and ranged touch attacks (for touches made with magic rays, for example)."
Yeah, but now read the part right after the "Touch spells in combat" heading, not the one after "Touch Attacks". The whole section is only for spells with a range of touch. The mentioning of ranged touch attacks under the "Touch Attacks" heading is surely just for completeness' sake.
Where does it state this? It would seem to me that the ranged touch attack has to come after you are done casting the spell, since the spell is what generates the effect you are making the attack with.
It says so in the spell description (also for melee touch attacks, mind you, but for those the "Touch spells in combat" section specifies, that they are seperate and can be made with a move action between the spellcasting and the attack or even rounds after thanks to the "Holding the charge" rules, which both only apply to spells with a range of touch and thus melee touch attacks).
So you feel that the most reasonable possibility is that you are right and the rules as written are wrong? Interesting.
No, I think it's obvious, that Full Attack actions can provoke Attacks of Opportunity.
Hypersmurf's comment is pretty valid, tho, that you can mix the attack types, so it should probably read "maybe" and explain that in the text. "No" definintely is wrong, because it's possible to make an attack as part of a Full Attack action, which definitely should provoke an Attack of Opportunity (and not one that is otherwise listed in the tables, such as Disarm or Grapple).
BTW, I remember, that you react quite strongly to comments like that one...
Bye
Thanee