Warriors Of The Coast OOC

[James Heard]

And it would have a major effect on what Nelson has said already - since he's had two years to note whether or not Zan knew draconic and probably has regular contact with him because it's unlikely that there are many other sources for books in town than the library...

 

[Bront]

Nah, I like him teasing me about not knowing it

I figure he didn't know it before hand, and Nelson probably figured he was just faking it afterwards, as Zan has been able to decipher several languages on a case per case basis (He has a +8 in Decipher Script)

 

[James Heard]

But that still doesn't make sense, because if lizard folk are getting anywhere near town the Luttins are going to be cursing them in ways that they understand. And while it might be a popular opinion to consider Nelson an idiot, he's got a 16 Intelligence and put three feats into gaining more skill points than anyone has any sense having at first level.

Plus the idea that Zan has been able to successfully lie to Nelson for two years is silly, since Zan doesn't have any ranks in Bluff and Nelson is maxed out in Sense Motive and Gather Information.

Anyways, I edited my post a few minutes before you posted your reply, so now we're really messed up by the retconning again. *sigh*

 

[Bront]

Sorry

It was an oversight on my part. Technicaly if you removed your, we're still ok. Zan would have made the comment about the sun and scales anyway.

 

[Bront]

Ok, I removed Zan's snippy/nerdy comment at the end, and now it looks good

Agian sorry about the confusion. My bad.

 

[Ringmereth]

Whoops, I'll try those tags again... it's been several months since I've played anything here.

 

[drothgery]

OOC: Minor note, Archivists can't spontaniously drop for cure spells, unless I'm missing something in the class.

Edit: Nevermind, you have spontanious healer.

Yup. As we go up in level, she'll probably start preparing a few cure spells (and/or make scrolls and buy wands), as she can only swap out her cha modifier/day (which is twice), and her role in combat is primarily as a support character. I'm hoping there's some HoH errata in the future that switches Archivist spell DCs from being wis-based to int-based (like their bonus spells and access to high-level spells) so it makes sense for her to learn a few thematically approriate offensive spells (frex, I think Castigate from Complete Divine might not be a great spell, but it's very thematically approriate for an Archivist). If not, she's going to continue learning mostly touch/ranged touch spells, self-affecting divinations, and spells that affect friendlies (like she knows now).

 

[Bront]

Nope, that's the same problem the Favored Soul has, though at least the Archivist's only casting stat is Wisdom (For bonus spells and DC at least), so you're not too bad in the MADD (Multiple Atribute Dependancy Dissorder) like the Favored Soul (Who needs Wis, Cha, as well as Physical stats since they're a combatant). So, unless you can get a feat to let you swap, you're stuck.

 

[drothgery]

Nope, that's the same problem the Favored Soul has, though at least the Archivist's only casting stat is Wisdom (For bonus spells and DC at least), so you're not too bad in the MADD (Multiple Atribute Dependancy Dissorder) like the Favored Soul (Who needs Wis, Cha, as well as Physical stats since they're a combatant). So, unless you can get a feat to let you swap, you're stuck.

As printed (this may have been a change from the web preview), it's int for access to spells and bonus spells, and wis for DCs (that's pretty much the only thing an Archivist needs wisdom for, since they've got good will saves, and don't any significant Wis-based class skills, or the skill points to spare on them -- even as a high-int human). That there's just one silly little wisdom-based thing in the entire class write-up is what makes me think it's an error. Khalia's built with the assumption that her spell DCs aren't going to be good (she needs Int as her primary stat, and Cha to make Spontaneous healer work and for saves against her Dark Knowledge, so her Wis and Dex are just above average, and she can barely carry her stuff).

 

[Bront]

Ok, I'm reading it, and it's Int for casting and DCs, and Wisdom for bonus spells. Heroes of Horror, page 82-83, right?