D&D 4E We likes our dwarven women kinda furry! (aka 4e beards)

[Nifft]

Because IMNSHO it's not visually appealing

Agree 110%.

Cheers, -- N

PS: Though the beard would explain the Cha penalty...

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Well, that's your opinion. Mine differs.

Nope, stone cold fact. That art is so abysmal Demogorgon is amassing armies to defend his status as Prince of Demons right now.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

PS: Though the beard would explain the Cha penalty...

So you think that while male dwarves are quaffing and rude and boiserous and all that, females are actually quite friendly and charming, but the beard's dragging them down? Makes sense. Would also explain the lack of female dwarven adventurers: Dwarves are actually very respectable people, but some of the "boys" are just unbearable, so they're "sent on adventure" (a sucker deal to get them out of the halls), but very few of their girls behave that way.

 

[Barastrondo]

Certainly it's easier to add beards than to remove them. Much easier to scribble a beard on an illustration than to try and paint a smooth chin and neck over an illo of a beard. Easier, too, to apply putty to a beardless miniature (as pretty much all the female dwarf miniatures put out are beardless) and sculpt a beard on it* than to cut away a beard and then sculpt a new chin. So really, it's not just an aesthetic choice, it's even expedient.


*Or just use a male dwarf miniature.

 

[Driddle]

Certainly it's easier to add beards than to remove them. Much easier to scribble a beard on an illustration than to try and paint a smooth chin and neck over an illo of a beard.

You're right. That's what I did after saving a copy of Klaus's work from the previous page. The women look much more dwarvish now.

 

[Gundark]

they just moved the beards from the face to another area of the body...

 

[el-remmen]

know none of the females I gamed with it 20 years would play a bearded female dwarf.

Your players do know that what their character looks like does not reflect what they themselves look like, right?

I have had multiple women (and a couple of men) play dwarven females in my games and think its kind of funny and cute and go to great lengths in describing how their beard is decorated and cared for, etc. . .

Perhaps there were other female players who did not play female dwarves because of the beard thing, but it was never verbalized. I can kind of remember one person who decided that his dwarven character was attracted to gnomes and halflings because he did not like the idea of his character wooing a bearded lady. . . Okay. . .whatever. . . But it wasn't as if it was a LARP and he was going to have to really kiss someone with a beard

Again, I think it is a very minor piece of setting flavor - if it happens to be part of a setting's details and you don't like, don't play a dwarf!

 

[Klaus]

Your players do know that what their character looks like does not reflect what they themselves look like, right?

I have had multiple women (and a couple of men) play dwarven females in my games and think its kind of funny and cute and go to great lengths in describing how their beard is decorated and cared for, etc. . .

Perhaps there were other female players who did not play female dwarves because of the beard thing, but it was never verbalized. I can kind of remember one person who decided that his dwarven character was attracted to gnomes and halflings because he did not like the idea of his character wooing a bearded lady. . . Okay. . .whatever. . . But it wasn't as if it was a LARP and he was going to have to really kiss someone with a beard

Again, I think it is a very minor piece of setting flavor - if it happens to be part of a setting's details and you don't like, don't play a dwarf!

One of my players (who is 6' tall) simply can't bring himself to play Small characters like halflings and gnomes. He might play a dwarf, but never has as far as I know.

 

[Nifft]

Your players do know that what their character looks like does not reflect what they themselves look like, right?

In my experience, this realization is something that only comes with experience.

Everyone's first PC seems to be an idealization.

It's only later, when she are more comfortable with the genre, that she feels able to enjoy role-playing a fat, ugly, drunken Dwarf with flatulence.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Though I like your artwork, Klaus, all those dwarves look like gnomes to me (it might be the ears, though). That's another reason for dwarven beards -- keeps them from being confused with gnomes!