D&D General Weird "DnD Is Dead" Youtube Trend??

[Charlaquin]

It's not just D&D YouTubers complaining about the platform's algorithm changes. I'm inclined to think that there's something to the algorithm complaint and that's why the clickbaitiness has increased even for channels with generally decent, level-headed information.

It’s entirely possible! I just think there is a strong tendency to treat “the algorithm” as some kind of vengeful god that grants viewership when properly appeased and takes it away when angered. Nobody really, thoroughly understands how the algorithms work, and while changes in their priorities absolutely can and do lead to content going in or out of favor, I think it’s risky to ever assume it’s solely responsible for any given shift in viewership trends.

 

[catree]

First: D&D5.5e will be over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Second: Now,everybody,I have a goooooooooood trpg system better than D&D 5.5e , allllllll of you must play my game because 5.5e will be over
LOL

 

[doctorbadwolf]

People have been hooked on rage clicks since the very beginning. And apparently your YouTube algorithm has decided you are one of those rage clickers and that's why they are linking those videos to you.

From the minor bits of YouTube futzing I have heard over the years... if you write a couple Comments in the D&D videos you actually like, that will begin to realign your "engagement" and trigger their algorithm to link you to more videos in that direction.

Not so much that, as i will explain.

Another victim of the algorithm pitching Dungeons & Discourse.

That is one of the channels i keep seeing, yes.

Not even the algorithm, though. This stuff doesnt show up on my recomended videos or anything, just when i search dnd itself or dnd topics. i dont engage with it, which keeps me clear of that fate, but it is frustrating to see mostly doom when i search "dnd" or try to find new dnd channels to watch.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I've been around the block on this sort of thing for a while now, on various other entertainment-media subjects. I know what this is. This is a combo of trend-chasers trying to be trend-setters, and people reading tea leaves way ahead of any actual....developments.

So, you know me. You know I'm not going to give 5e a pass if I don't think it's (very) well-deserved. I don't think D&D 5e is dead. Instead, I think folks are correctly seeing the waning enthusiasm. I think folks are catching on to the very very very first blush, the first tiny inklings, that the proverbial "spark" isn't there anymore. Doesn't mean folks aren't having fun, lots still are, of that I have no doubt. Doesn't even mean the game isn't growing, it probably still is! But we have passed an inflection point.

The instant it looks like things are going Not So Well, the social media feeding frenzy begins, because being THE VERY FIRST to report on some controversial thing nets a creator money and attention.

Maybe--maybe--in another 2-3 years, we'll be seeing this in a much more serious and meaningful way. For now, just view this like tabloid magazines pontificating about allegedly-explosive exclusive reveals...90%+ of which are at best the result of someone casting molehills to mountains, and at worst outright intentional and knowing bovine feces. For the time being? Just means we're hitting the natural and expected slowing-down period after an edition has passed its peak. Which...should not be a surprise to anyone given we now have 5.5e and it is being openly called 5.5e now.

I genuinely think it is more likely that these tubers are mad about the game for one reason or another and are letting that bias thier view towards seeing doom, personally, but maybe.

 

[payn]

Why? Why is yhis enough of a thing that whrn i watch any video from the official dnd channel i get recomended videos about how "dnd as we know it is over" and "all of dndbeyond was leaked" and stuff like that?

Did people just get hooked on the rage clicks during the OGL kerfluffle?

Hi, Welcome.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Hi, Welcome.

Ive been here longer than 5e.

 

[bedir than]

I don't know that it is either problem.

As D&D rode a skyrocket through the pandemic, it was picking up new players, and they were forming new groups of newbies, many of them playing online, none of them knowing quite what they were doing. Online content is a perfect approach to getting them ideas of what to do with their game.

But then, the world opened up. I suspect, even as the game continued to grow, you had more mixing of new and experienced players. That may have shifted us back into the apprenticeship model that has been common in the game for most of its history, and away from needing new online content to do the job.

Plus, just like with D&D game books, the market can be saturated with videos about D&D. If the video market has enough material to work with, they don't go for new videos with the same gusto.

it remains true that a creator that has to lie in order to get attention has a creator problem, not a D&D is dead problem

 

[Artamo]

I deal with this problem the way I deal with trollish behavior - I block. I think Dungeons and Discourse came up for me one time. I saw what it was, clicked Don’t Recommend Channel, and poof, they’re gone.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I deal with this problem the way I deal with trollish behavior - I block. I think Dungeons and Discourse came up for me one time. I saw what it was, clicked Don’t Recommend Channel, and poof, they’re gone.

Yeah i need to get on youtube on a computer so i can block them. Since i see them when searching, my roku app doesnt have the "do not recoomend" option when they pop up for me.

I only get actually recomended this stuff when i watch nerd immersion because actually dnd designers are talking to him about dnd, or give another change to bobworldbuilder, or watch a collab between a normal person and dndshorts. (Cannot fathom how that guy manages to keep getting collabs when he is so obnoxious and his "reporting" on any dnd news is pretty much always complete BS)

 

[Artamo]

Yeah i need to get on youtube on a computer so i can block them. Since i see them when searching, my roku app doesnt have the "do not recoomend" option when they pop up for me.

I only get actually recomended this stuff when i watch nerd immersion because actually dnd designers are talking to him about dnd, or give another change to bobworldbuilder, or watch a collab between a normal person and dndshorts. (Cannot fathom how that guy manages to keep getting collabs when he is so obnoxious and his "reporting" on any dnd news is pretty much always complete BS)

Ahh, yeah that stinks. I watch a lot of YouTube on AppleTV but luckily it does allow me to block from the remote. DnDShorts is another I blocked for sure. The good news is that eventually, the algorithm does get the message.