D&D 5E What are the "True Issues" with 5e?

[mamba]

Then the Fighter should just stop at level 10. There's no point in continuing afterwards

and Wizards can stop right there too. As I said, the saving grace for D&D is that most campaigns end around that point anyway

 

[mamba]

Then I rather expect through hp inflation alone..high level 5e D&D is not for you.

I agree, never said it is

 

[MuhVerisimilitude]

no

Why not?

Why must the fighter be a pathetic piece of trash at high levels, but wizards not be limited by anything?

(magic is not a valid answer since magic does not exist in our reality)

 

[Gammadoodler]

These creatures need to be much tougher then, you're right.

Lol..I kinda love this approach..

"Wait..were those guys good or useful or notable for something?...shoot..gonna have to fix that.."

 

[Raiztt]

Lol..I kinda love this approach..

"Wait..were those guys good or useful or notable for something?...shoot..gonna have to fix that.."

it's more that I just don't want to play a game of super heroes

 

[Raiztt]

Why not?

Why must the fighter be a pathetic piece of trash at high levels, but wizards not be limited by anything?

(magic is not a valid answer since magic does not exist in our reality)

This is just naked question begging if you're going to preclude answers for irrelevant reasons.

A lot of people - obviously - prefer game worlds where people are people, unless the supernatural intervenes on or through them. If the fighter is billed as "Just a guy who fights well" then he ought to have the sorts of limitations that come along with that.

Notice how no one makes this argument about paladins - because they're not JUST "guys who fight well" - they are to a significant degree supernatural.

 

[Gammadoodler]

it's more that I just don't want to play a game of super heroes

Enh..more specifically..it seems like you need someone to apply the "magic" keyword before you accept superheroes.

 

[mamba]

Not that much less?!? What?! The Flash is basically a Speed Elemental

in terms of speed there is a difference, in terms of realism and desirability there is not, which is what I was referring to

 

[Raiztt]

Enh..more specifically..it seems like you need someone to apply the "magic" keyword before you accept superheroes.

Unironically, yes. The game is divided explicitly into the natural, and the supernatural. You can have fighters that rival the mightiest wizards... just not ones that aren't themselves supernatural/superhuman.

If everyone in your game world is basically a superhuman relative to an earth analogue, go nuts. But my game worlds are essentially earth analogues + magic.

 

[mamba]

Why not?

Why must the fighter be a pathetic piece of trash at high levels, but wizards not be limited by anything?

I am perfectly ok with limiting the Wizard. Not sure what gave you the impression that I am not…