EzekielRaiden
Follower of the Way
You literally clipped out the part where Lanefan explicitly said they advocate removal of the skill rules. That was literally, explicitly said.neither one says anything about removing the attributes or rolls against a DC.
They do not want some rules that remove the need to do more than engage with those rules and roll a dice, where the player can say nothing at all about how they persuade an NPC, they just say 'I use skill X' and then make a successful check thanks to the char's high CHA
The only alteration I made to any of the quotes above was removing the first paragraph of the first quote from Overgeeked, because it was about a completely unrelated topic. Every single other quote is perfectly verbatim, the entire post. Don't selectively quote at me and pretend like this is something other than what it is. There's a reason I quoted whole posts (with the one exception, which still quoted the whole paragraph without any alteration) here.
Edit: And Lanefan explicitly says that the stats should only exist to inform RP. Not to be a reason why a player can describe, rather than performing the skill herself. In fact, again in the parts you cut out, Lanefan explicitly says that social behaviors absolutely MUST be played out, because they're (allegedly) unique in being something IRL people can do. Thus, IRL people should have to actually be personally persuasive, to actually roleplay it out themselves. Even though, for a pretty solid chunk of humanity, that is effectively or actually impossible.