Dragonlance What Happened To The New DRAGONLANCE Trilogy?

[Morrus]

I got a reply from Margaret Weis. She says it's due in 2022.

 

[AmerginLiath]

I was about to go and track down where Weis had commented on the first book being out next year (no one seems to know where that Amazon date came from), but Morrus did us all a solid by flexing his muscles.

(with the old Dragonlance message boards recently shut down, finding Weis’s recent comments on things takes a bit more Google-fu now)

 

[ersatzphil]

Considering WotC fought pretty hard to prevent the publication of these novels, I doubt they have tie-in products planned.

From what I recall, wasn't their objection to something in the second novel of a trilogy? I believe they had one novel done and agreed upon before the whole legal fiasco. That being said, I could totally see previously greenlit projects now being scrapped quietly in the background.

 

[darjr]

Considering WotC fought pretty hard to prevent the publication of these novels, I doubt they have tie-in products planned.

From what I recall, wasn't their objection to something in the second novel of a trilogy? I believe they had one novel done and agreed upon before the whole legal fiasco. That being said, I could totally see previously greenlit projects now being scrapped quietly in the background.

As far as I know It was one guy, who was quickly “resigned” while wotc fixed it.

 

[Burnside]

From what I recall, wasn't their objection to something in the second novel of a trilogy? I believe they had one novel done and agreed upon before the whole legal fiasco. That being said, I could totally see previously greenlit projects now being scrapped quietly in the background.

I also wonder if this all has something to do with the recent "novels aren't canon" statement. In other words, "You're gonna see some Dragonlance novels come out; don't be surprised if what happens in them is never reflected in our game products."

 

[Dire Bare]

There isn't one.

That we know of.

No Dragonlance game book has been announced, but that doesn't mean WotC isn't working on one.

 

[Dire Bare]

Considering they just made a big deal out of how novels aren't canon anymore, I doubt they plan on tying any new Dragonlance release to the novels at this point. (Might have been the plan in the past, admittedly; but I doubt it now.)

And yet, WotC continues to publish D&D books set in the Realms, and Salvatore continues to write novels set in the Realms.

Nobody knows if WotC has plans to do a new Dragonlance game book . . . but the decision would have nothing to do with their policy on canon.

If WotC decides to go ahead with a new Dragonlance game book, they'll look at the existing canon from novels and earlier edition game books . . . . and largely stick to it, tweaking when necessary, and even possibly making a few major changes. That's how they roll with the Realms, it's how they'll roll with Dragonlance, if/when they decide to do it at all.

 

[Jaeger]

and largely stick to it, tweaking when necessary, and even possibly making a few major changes. That's how they roll with the Realms, it's how they'll roll with Dragonlance, if/when they decide to do it at all.

I think that they'll have to make a lot of changes for a DL setting book.

They will want to make DL accommodate all the Player races in the core book at least. Probably further changes so that Orcs and other 'Iconic' D&D baddies would now exist in DL.

In my opinion the whole "Novels aren't canon anymore" was a big signal that a classic setting is getting a major facelift.

I could also be completely wrong... So there is that.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

And yet, WotC continues to publish D&D books set in the Realms, and Salvatore continues to write novels set in the Realms.

Nobody knows if WotC has plans to do a new Dragonlance game book . . . but the decision would have nothing to do with their policy on canon.

I came across one of these yesterday. According to 3rd edition game accessories the Red Dragon Trading Lodge in Luskan (introduced in a computer game) went out of business, but according to Salvatore's recent novella One Eyed Jax it is still operating.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

They will want to make DL accommodate all the Player races in the core book at least

I don't see why they would bother with that, they didn't with Theros, and there are much more serious things in need of fixing. Your PC half orc is from another plane.

 

[Ibrandul]

I think that they'll have to make a lot of changes for a DL setting book.

They will want to make DL accommodate all the Player races in the core book at least. Probably further changes so that Orcs and other 'Iconic' D&D baddies would now exist in DL.

In my opinion the whole "Novels aren't canon anymore" was a big signal that a classic setting is getting a major facelift.

It seems to me that WotC's current approach to lore, even in their setting books, is extremely detail-light, very restriction-averse, and also very have-it-both-ways.

So while they certainly would never say, for example, "There are no orcs native to Krynn," they also probably wouldn't add orcs to the setting explicitly. They're more likely just to not talk about orcs at all, so that those who don't know about or don't like orcs' absence from the older Dragonlance lore will just assume orcs exist there (just as, say, gelatinous cubes would be assumed to exist even if the guide doesn't say so), and old-school fans will feel free to exclude them. (This applies generally but is doubly likely in the specific case of orcs, which I imagine WotC probably aren't too keen to foreground at the moment.)

On the other hand, I expect certain elements (e.g., gully dwarves) to be severely retconned. Actually I do expect a full-on timeline reboot to the War of the Lance era, but I also figure the facelift is likely to be limited mostly to sensitivity changes.

 

[Mannahnin]

They will want to make DL accommodate all the Player races in the core book at least. Probably further changes so that Orcs and other 'Iconic' D&D baddies would now exist in DL.

Half the point of DL was not having Orcs and gold pieces and all the standard tropes. Theros gives us an example of a current setting which doesn't use all the same standard species. So I see no reason for them to warp DL just to accommodate all the core ones.

That being said, Gully Dwarfs would definitely need a fix.

 

[LordEntrails]

To me, gully dwarves will always count, "one, two, two, two..."

 

[DarkCrisis]

Half the point of DL was not having Orcs and gold pieces and all the standard tropes. Theros gives us an example of a current setting which doesn't use all the same standard species. So I see no reason for them to warp DL just to accommodate all the core ones.

That being said, Gully Dwarfs would definitely need a fix.

And all Kender being thieves in some form and all Gnomes being Tinker Gnomes. etc etc

 

[Jaeger]

It seems to me that WotC's current approach to lore, even in their setting books, is extremely detail-light, very restriction-averse, and also very have-it-both-ways.

So while they certainly would never say, for example, "There are no orcs native to Krynn," they also probably wouldn't add orcs to the setting explicitly. They're more likely just to not talk about orcs at all, so that those who don't know about or don't like orcs' absence from the older Dragonlance lore will just assume orcs exist there (just as, say, gelatinous cubes would be assumed to exist even if the guide doesn't say so), and old-school fans will feel free to exclude them.

Yes, this.

You go on to describe one way WOTC can do this. I think that what you describe would be the minimum WOTC would do should DL be one of the classic settings that they adapt.

So I see no reason for them to warp DL just to accommodate all the core ones.

Just the same, there is also no reason for them not to.

DL is for all intents and purposes a dormant IP right now. And WOTC did the survey - they have far more new players than old ones now with the D&D pop-culture boom.

WOTC can do what it wants to DragonLance, and only a tiny minority will complain.

 

[JEB]

WOTC can do what it wants to DragonLance, and only a tiny minority will complain.

Dragonlance was much more popular at its peak than, say, Ravenloft. To include a following among non-gamers (the novels were New York Times bestsellers). It also has at least one notable celebrity supporter in Joe "Arkhan the Cruel" Manganiello.

While its peak was admittedly a generation ago, I still imagine there will be a decent number of folks expecting a 5E Dragonlance to meet their nostalgic hopes, and a proportionally larger number of folks complaining if those hopes are dashed.

Will it still be a minority? Probably. (Though that depends on how, and how extensively, they change things. The more extreme, the more fans they'll upset.) But I don't know if it'll be "tiny".

 

[teitan]

No, an actual DL book. Probably announced later on.

Don’t hold your breath

 

[Blue]

They will want to make DL accommodate all the Player races in the core book at least. Probably further changes so that Orcs and other 'Iconic' D&D baddies would now exist in DL.

Quite the opposite. They have a kitchen sink setting already, they have been putting out ones with specific flavor. Want to play a thoughtful seagoing minotaur? Krynn is the place for you. Want to play a half orc? Not so much.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

Gullys can count beyond two, but only in their first languange.

My question is if the future CGI teleserie adaptation will be produced by Netflix, Disney or Paramount.

We don't know the future plans about a possible event linked to the black obelisks and that could cause a ("new") reboot of the D&D multiverse.

And some rectcons could be to can introduce some crunch elements, for example the psionic powers, or the martial adept classes with the ki maneuvers, or a secret portal in the island of the dragons to the demiplane "Io's blood islands" (Council of Wyrms setting). The crystal sphere could be totally rebooted.

And I advice to allow some space for the no-canon fan-art, for example because a game-live streaming show wishs to play an alternate Dragonlance with some changes, for example lord Soth is again the dark lord of Sithicus, but this time the dark domain isn't within demiplane of the dread but in Krynn shadowfell.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Just the same, there is also no reason for them not to.

There is - a very simple one - space. Why would they bother using space to add an orc culture somewhere when they can just do the same handwave as Theros: "Aside from humans, the races in the Player’s Handbook are unknown on Theros, unless they’re visiting from other worlds."