Whedon off Wonder Woman

[DonTadow]

They took a chance with him but his resume on hit TV shows and his cult following went a long way. I also think I heard somewhere where the Mavel people had him on their short list.

They also liked his experience with media and the fantasy realm and the effectiveness of his budgeting and production. It's far more difficult to make good films on shoestring budgets than it is to make good films when someone gives you a ton of cash.

 

[Villano]

So how did Sam Raimi did it?

Before he took the helm of the first Spider-Man movie, the only credits I know that he has were the syndicated Hercules: The Legendary Journey and Xena: Warrior Princess TV series. Definitely campy that would make many fans to reject him as the Spider-Man helmer.

As a Raimi fan, I was wondering why he was given such a high profile movie (although I tend to forget that he's been slowly moving into mainstream films with movies like A Simple Plan and The Gift). I think you mentioned the biggest factor yourself: Hercules and Xena. They were insanely popular and made a great deal of money. To a studio, that's all that really matters.

And I don't think that the choice really bothered comic fans since Raimi is a self-professed fan himself. He tried to do The Shadow (before that movie came out), but couldn't get the rights. He also lobbied to take over the Batman franchise, but they gave it to Schumacher instead...and we all know how that turned out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Plane

Damn John Byrne for bringing back this forgettable piece of comic history...

As a survivor of his writing the book, the Wikipedia paragraph describing his time on it can't convey the sheer wrong-headedness of his run. Paradise Island can travel through time? Time is altered so that everyone now "remembers" Hippolyta (WW's mom) as the original Wonder Woman of WW2? Wonder Woman is a goddess? She killed a duplicate of Doomsday by herself? The original Wonder Girl (now Troia) was WW's twin sister, who is cursed to live an infinite series of horrible lives in which she is killed, reborn, and made to suffer again and again? Aliens give WW an invisible jet? And why does a woman who can fly need a jet? Byrne also said in interviews that he was going to marry her off, but since that didn't happen, I assume the editors shot that down.

I haven't read the new series, but I've heard that WW now changes her costume by spinning around like on the TV series, so maybe I shouldn't give the DC editors too much credit for good sense.

 

[Klaus]

That happened in the last issue by Phil Jimenez. Diana claims she learned that from her mother...

I actually don't *hate* the idea of a time-travelling Hyppolita becoming the Golden Age Wonder Woman, though. But the Donna Troy thing was just terrible.

One thing that muddled DC's continuity was that, after Crisis on Infinite Earths, some characters were rebooted, but others (read: Titans) weren't. That could've been avoided simply by stating that the "reboots" took place some time in the past. Then you could still have Wonder Woman saving a baby girl from a burning building and taking her to Paradise Island, where she grew up to be Wonder Girl. This shouldve been done with Hawkman, too.

 

[John Crichton]

The real shame of this is that Whedon really knows how to do female protagonists. The only one who comes close is JJ Abrams. I couldn't think of anyone better to do this movie and now I have zero interest.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

As a survivor of his writing the book, the Wikipedia paragraph describing his time on it can't convey the sheer wrong-headedness of his run.

My god, that is bad stuff. I've only have a casual interest in the book or character, so I did not follow it during this run and now I'm glad I did not. Wow.

Mostly my thoughts were and are those of John Crichton; Whendon has a proven track record and could have handled a flick about a woman with vast butt kicking powers. Most in Hollywood can barely handle movies about men with butt kicking powers.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

This is a good thing. Now maybe it has a chance to be good.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

This is a good thing. Now maybe it has a chance to be good.

A good thing. Whendon being off...

I don't think you and I define these terms the same way.

 

[DonTadow]

SWEEET!!!! 16 posts in before the Whedon hating posts started to begin. What is you don't like firefly, buffy, angel? his vision on astonishing xmen? Fray?

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

SWEEET!!!! 16 posts in before the Whedon hating posts started to begin. What is you don't like firefly, buffy, angel? his vision on astonishing xmen? Fray?

People aren't allowed to dislike Whedon?

I mean, I like the guy's stuff(mostly, not a fan of Buffy and co at all), but really...I didn't see any serious hating.

 

[John Crichton]

People aren't allowed to dislike Whedon?

Sure, you can hate but it's nice to have a reason behind it.

I mean, I like the guy's stuff(mostly, not a fan of Buffy and co at all), but really...I didn't see any serious hating.

I think he was referring to Flexor's post.