Whedon off Wonder Woman

[Ranger REG]

As a Raimi fan, I was wondering why he was given such a high profile movie (although I tend to forget that he's been slowly moving into mainstream films with movies like A Simple Plan and The Gift). I think you mentioned the biggest factor yourself: Hercules and Xena. They were insanely popular and made a great deal of money. To a studio, that's all that really matters.

Interesting. I never thought of Spider-Man being a high-profile film project, anymore than Batman.

As a survivor of his writing the book, the Wikipedia paragraph describing his time on it can't convey the sheer wrong-headedness of his run. Paradise Island can travel through time? Time is altered so that everyone now "remembers" Hippolyta (WW's mom) as the original Wonder Woman of WW2? Wonder Woman is a goddess? She killed a duplicate of Doomsday by herself? The original Wonder Girl (now Troia) was WW's twin sister, who is cursed to live an infinite series of horrible lives in which she is killed, reborn, and made to suffer again and again? Aliens give WW an invisible jet? And why does a woman who can fly need a jet? Byrne also said in interviews that he was going to marry her off, but since that didn't happen, I assume the editors shot that down.

I haven't read the new series, but I've heard that WW now changes her costume by spinning around like on the TV series, so maybe I shouldn't give the DC editors too much credit for good sense.

All of these are giving me a headspin.

It would be interesting what the film mythos is going to based on. That's why I ask if putting Wonder Woman in the modern age and try to marry it with the ancient Greek myths ... can be done without making sound like Hilary Duff/Britney Spears "girl-to-womanhood" film.

 

[John Crichton]

Interesting. I never thought of Spider-Man being a high-profile film project, anymore than Batman.

They are both super-high profile.

If those aren't high-profile film projects what do you consider high-profile?

 

[DonTadow]

People aren't allowed to dislike Whedon?

I mean, I like the guy's stuff(mostly, not a fan of Buffy and co at all), but really...I didn't see any serious hating.

It just seems silly that people go into a post of something they don't like just to say "i dont like it". When the subject of the post has nothing to do with whether you like it or not.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

So if a thread says that Wheadon is off Wonder Woman I can't state in a public forum that I think this is a good thing?

 

[John Crichton]

So if a thread says that Wheadon is off Wonder Woman I can't state in a public forum that I think this is a good thing?

Of course you can, but it would be nice to know what you don't like about his work. Otherwise, just like a one word post about "things sucking" it's just blather that doesn't really contribute to the thread at all. I expect that at AICN, but not here.

But that's just me.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Interesting. I never thought of Spider-Man being a high-profile film project, anymore than Batman.

All-Time USA Box Office

1. Titanic (1997) $600,779,824
2. Star Wars (1977) $460,935,665
3. Shrek 2 (2004) $436,471,036
4. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) $434,949,459
5. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) $431,065,444
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) $423,032,628
7. Spider-Man (2002) $403,706,375
8. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) $380,262,555
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) $377,019,252
10. Spider-Man 2 (2004) $373,377,893

Four hundred million dollars' worth of Americans would appear to disagree...

-Hyp.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

It just seems silly that people go into a post of something they don't like just to say "i dont like it". When the subject of the post has nothing to do with whether you like it or not.

I can understand that...but really, sometimes opinions are just opinions.

...besides, I'm the guy who still goes and defends Lucas and Star Wars in the threads that pop up, so I know what you mean...

 

[Vigilance]

All of these are giving me a headspin.

It would be interesting what the film mythos is going to based on. That's why I ask if putting Wonder Woman in the modern age and try to marry it with the ancient Greek myths ... can be done without making sound like Hilary Duff/Britney Spears "girl-to-womanhood" film.

This is why Joss has said repeatedly that this was a hard script to write.

She's an iconic character, but her origin is not nearly as strong and easy to tell as Batman, Superman or Spiderman.

She also doesn't even really have an arch-nemesis.

 

[The Grumpy Celt]

It just seems silly...

(Shrug) People hate. It is what we do. It is who we are. Like breathing.

 

[Vigilance]

All-Time USA Box Office

1. Titanic (1997) $600,779,824
2. Star Wars (1977) $460,935,665
3. Shrek 2 (2004) $436,471,036
4. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) $434,949,459
5. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) $431,065,444
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) $423,032,628
7. Spider-Man (2002) $403,706,375
8. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) $380,262,555
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) $377,019,252
10. Spider-Man 2 (2004) $373,377,893

Four hundred million dollars' worth of Americans would appear to disagree...

-Hyp.

I think what Reg was talking about was that no one expected Spider Man to be a high-profile movie franchise before the first one came out. Certainly a change from James Cameron to Sam Raimi said that the studio didn't expect it to be one of the most profitable film franchises of the last decade.

It's a big deal NOW, but it wasn't then.