Where is my Freaking Mule?!

[Garthanos]

I think we really are getting to the point where something like Unearthed Arcana for 4e could be a good supplement, and give the 4e designers some guidance as far as future supplements. I just don't see myself buying to many more PHB's, power supplements or another Adventurer's Vault... Even now I feel like I have enough combat crunch to last me a lifetime.

Admittedly I got an itch for the psionics system as an inspiration for other stuff so might be reasonable to absorb it in more completeness... before I feel like UA is in demand.

 

[Hussar]

An alternative book? Nothing. Go for it and I don't think anyone is arguing against that.

I think the arguement is against including this sort of thing in a core supplement.

 

[Rechan]

but what would be so wrong with an optional book like 3.5's Unearthed Arcana where alternative rules to support other playstyles are published?

Nothing! I think 4e needs an UA.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I think the arguement is against including this sort of thing in a core supplement.

Again, what harm could it do? 3Ed had its Arms & Equipment guide. 2Ed had Aurora's.

If there is such demand for a 4Ed Aurora's that WotC would make a profit by producing one, then it would be a rational business decision for them to produce one (including, of course, all opportunity costs, such as whether such a product would be more or less profitable than another supplement slated for release).

 

[Rechan]

Thing is, it seems like the 3pp have given up. Aside from Goodman Games dutifully cranking out monster pdfs and the occasional adventure, Alluria seems pretty dedicated to publish races. I don't really see else anyone continually publishing. And I don't see these two 3pp really getting out their rut.

 

[Hussar]

Again, what harm could it do? 3Ed had its Arms & Equipment guide. 2Ed had Aurora's.

If there is such demand for a 4Ed Aurora's that WotC would make a profit by producing one, then it would be a rational business decision for them to produce one (including, of course, all opportunity costs, such as whether such a product would be more or less profitable than another supplement slated for release).

Sorry, by core I meant the 4e definition of the term - PHB, DMG or MM, in various iterations. Even 3e or 2e didn't really do this in core, as you rightly point out - A&E Guide and Auroras.

Zero problem with a book for those that want it. I do not want this to become a standard in the core game though.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Sorry, by core I meant the 4e definition of the term - PHB, DMG or MM, in various iterations. Even 3e or 2e didn't really do this in core, as you rightly point out - A&E Guide and Auroras.

Zero problem with a book for those that want it. I do not want this to become a standard in the core game though.

Again, I fail to see how making it a core book injures 4Ed in any way, assuming the demand for the product is sufficient.

 

[Lanefan]

Again, I fail to see how making it a core book injures 4Ed in any way, assuming the demand for the product is sufficient.

Forgive what may seem a stupid question, but isn't it the publisher's (WotC) stated intent that for 4e everything they publish is core?

Lan-"is a mule a minion?"-efan

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Forgive what may seem a stupid question, but isn't it the publisher's (WotC) stated intent that for 4e everything they publish is core?

Lan-"is a mule a minion?"-efan

That was kind of my impression as well- I could be wrong, of course, because I often am- but I'm not a 4Ed fan so I can't say for sure.

 

[brunswick]

We could always start up a new thread in which everyone could contribute an item (or items) for an unofficial 'non-magical' item list, from which interested DMs and Players could cherry-pick as they choose?