White Wolf viciously attacks everyone who roleplays for fun

[Sir Elton]

As I'm sure Nisarg would be happy to explain, in the '90s, White Wolf nearly destroyed the roleplaying hobby. This quote merely marks the salvo with which we hope to finish the job. Once our Master Plan is complete, THERE WILL BE NO ROLEPLAYING! AHAHARHARHAR!

So, weekend before last, I ran a D&D caper flick set in the City of Brass. This week, I'm working on painting up a GW river troll (I do like their river trolls) so I have a big painted centerpiece when my brother and my wife try to root out some trolls. Under a bridge, no less. And wait... I work for White Wolf, and am at the heart of the new World of Darkness team, and therefore every word printed in a World of Darkness book must speak for my soul. And yet... I've written Sword and Sorcery stuff for D&D as well, and even recruited the inestimable (contact) as a consultant on a couple of Relics & Rituals books, based on a friendship that grew out of EnWorld.

My goodness, I've viciously attacked myself! O, the depths of inner self-loathing that must surely boil within me. I will probably have to dash all the miniatures from my painting table in order to reclaim the table space and write a poem — wait, screw that, my Blood Bowl team apothecary isn't done yet.

I guess I'll get around to expressing the howl of anguish and hatred for everything that I love that wells up within my blackened soul later, if that's okay with you.

Yeah. The beginning post was a paranoid post. I'm sure your not filled with all that Angst, Mr. Skemp.

 

[hong]

As I'm sure Nisarg would be happy to explain, in the '90s, White Wolf nearly destroyed the roleplaying hobby. This quote merely marks the salvo with which we hope to finish the job. Once our Master Plan is complete, THERE WILL BE NO ROLEPLAYING! AHAHARHARHAR!

So, weekend before last, I ran a D&D caper flick set in the City of Brass. This week, I'm working on painting up a GW river troll (I do like their river trolls) so I have a big painted centerpiece when my brother and my wife try to root out some trolls. Under a bridge, no less. And wait... I work for White Wolf, and am at the heart of the new World of Darkness team, and therefore every word printed in a World of Darkness book must speak for my soul. And yet... I've written Sword and Sorcery stuff for D&D as well, and even recruited the inestimable (contact) as a consultant on a couple of Relics & Rituals books, based on a friendship that grew out of EnWorld.

My goodness, I've viciously attacked myself! O, the depths of inner self-loathing that must surely boil within me. I will probably have to dash all the miniatures from my painting table in order to reclaim the table space and write a poem — wait, screw that, my Blood Bowl team apothecary isn't done yet.

I guess I'll get around to expressing the howl of anguish and hatred for everything that I love that wells up within my blackened soul later, if that's okay with you.

Dammit, Barastrondo does this better than me.


Hong "now we must fight" Ooi

 

[Rel]

My initial reaction was to consider this a tempest in a teapot. Now I'm leaning a bit more toward a warm summer breeze with high humidity.

Perhaps we could find a picture of a WW employee stomping a puppy to death as it holds a 3E PHB in it cute little mouth. I might be able to raise a bit of indignation over that.

 

[Tom Cashel]

"White Wolf viciously attacks everyone who roleplays for fun."

Before I reply in earnest, I think I'll spit out some more coffee laughing at this soft-headed twaddle. Vicious!

Not trying to insult you, Nisarg........wait a minute. Yes I am.

Edit: That's some nice trolling, there, Mr. N.

Spoiler

fnord

 

[eyebeams]

For everyone who ever accused me of either lying or being out of date when I accused of WW of being elitist; from the freshly-minted pages of the new WoD book:

"Many roleplaying games are more concerned with rules and statistics than the drama created within the game. Some people call those roll-playing games, since they're more focused on dice-rolling than on role-playing...Just don't get lost in the Ivory Tower. Don't deride those who see gaming as a fun hobby (which it is), or those whose roleplaying stories don't aim higher. Instead, encourage and persuade players to stretch their boundries. Storytelling is about acheiving something great through an interactive tale, but not at the expense of fun. "

The particular irony of this is that if ANYONE needs to be "encouraged and persuaded" and "helped" to stretch their boundaries, its people who play WW games. Not only are they apparently convinced that role-play cannot be fun, it has to be serious; but they also are hypocrites: WW games are JUST as mechanical and dice-dependent (and in sheer numbers roll more dice) than D&D. WW games are certainly not "rules lite" in the sense of Over the Edge or Feng Shui..

Everything I ever said on RPG.net is now vindicated.

So, how do all you non-WW players feel about what WW thinks of you? How do WW players explain themselves in the face of this proof now?

Nisarg

no, I haven't stopped beating my wife, thanks.

 

[Psion]

While I'm no fan of White Wolf, I don't think that paragraph qualifies as a vicious attack. Sure, it's a little pretentious, but I wouldn't call it a flat-out attack against people who prefer combat-focused games over drama-focused games.

Yeah, annoying and uprofessional pretentiousness and divisivism in an already too small niche market, but overall just sticks-and-stones, not a viscious attack.

 

[Mystery Man]

Everything I ever said on RPG.net is now vindicated.

Ah HA! I thought I smelled something funny.

 

[Piratecat]

That's about as far from a vicious attack as you can get. A pretentious paragraph in another game is hardly worth this much rhetoric. Personally, I save my righteous indignation for subjects that deserve it.

If that paragraph makes you mad, go hang out at the Indie RPG messageboard The Forge. There's a lot of cool people there, but there's also some gaming elitists, and you used to hear that sort of comment quite a bit.

 

[Desdichado]

Quite OT, but I have to chime in and say I love the GW river trolls too; I've got a river troll head on the body of "Ripper" Bolgrot as my Blood Bowl troll.

Although my current orc team roster has an ogre, not a troll, so it's a bit moot at the moment.

 

[Sir Elton]

Yeah, annoying and uprofessional pretentiousness and divisivism in an already too small niche market, but overall just sticks-and-stones, not a viscious attack.

OR a viscous one?