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D&D 5E Why do people care when threads get necro'd?

DEFCON 1

Legend
This seems to be a big deal for some people... someone here on the boards gets an old thread in their mentions and then read it and respond, not noticing the thread is "old". And invariably there are other who then show up to say "Necro'd thread!"... as if that is actually a problem.

Why exactly? Why is responding to an old thread such a big deal? Quite frankly I think a lot of concepts and ideas would be better off if the person who created a new thread had actually gone back and reread the old ones that had already gone over the same exact ground. Because they'd save themselves a lot of time and energy and seen exactly what everyone had already come up with for an answer. I mean, it seems like ever several months there's a brand-new thread asking why there isn't a Warlord or an Arcane Half-Caster in the game, or how do people run the Stealth rules... despite the fact that we've had three, five, nine, a dozen previous threads about them over the years.

Personally, I think if people are going to keep pointing out "Thread necromancy!", it's only right and fair that when a new thread is made regarding a topic that has clearly been created many times before, that someone immediately post 'Thread conjuration!" :)

** In the spirit in which this thread was created, I hope and expect someone to please do a search on this exact same topic, then post the link to that thread that also decries the continued castigation of thread necromancy, and follow it up by a "Thread conjuration!" response. Thank you. You do the Arneson's work.**
 

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Eubani

Hero
Their unimportant selves have to feel important somehow. Some cannot grasp the simple idea that new information comes to light over time or thoughts on topics shift.
 



Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
It's not so much thread necromancy, which can be good. Recycling is always a good thing, which is why I personally am an advocate for cannibalism. But vegan cannibalism. Hufu- tastes just like human!

Where was I? Oh yes, it's more the unwitting necromancy. Considered, intentional necromancy- actually finding the corpse, digging it out of the cold ground, and breathing life into it? That's okay!

But when you're just stumbling around, and you can't remember the words, and you're all like, "Klaatu Barada N... necktie... nectar... nickel... noodle. It's an 'N' word, it's definitely an 'N' word ..." and then you unwittingly raise the thread and the hordes of people come into tell you, "Nope, this has been dead since 2003" that's when you've done some real Evil.
 

Laurefindel

Legend
I secretly love necro'd threads. I like picking up a conversation where it was left off years ago. New information and ideas can contribute and give new insight, hindsight observations can be made, experiences can be shared.

What I don't like, and my bet on why people despise thread necromancy, is being caught in a conversation I didn't notice was 2 years old. Then someone point it out and I feel foolish. But well-identified necro'd thread are great as far as I'm concerned. I'd love a forum/boards function flagging or highlighting threads that were started more than X months ago (whatever X months is considered old enough to be considered necromancy) [edit] as suggested in the thread conjuration...
 


Ovinomancer

No flips for you!
This seems to be a big deal for some people... someone here on the boards gets an old thread in their mentions and then read it and respond, not noticing the thread is "old". And invariably there are other who then show up to say "Necro'd thread!"... as if that is actually a problem.

Why exactly? Why is responding to an old thread such a big deal? Quite frankly I think a lot of concepts and ideas would be better off if the person who created a new thread had actually gone back and reread the old ones that had already gone over the same exact ground. Because they'd save themselves a lot of time and energy and seen exactly what everyone had already come up with for an answer. I mean, it seems like ever several months there's a brand-new thread asking why there isn't a Warlord or an Arcane Half-Caster in the game, or how do people run the Stealth rules... despite the fact that we've had three, five, nine, a dozen previous threads about them over the years.

Personally, I think if people are going to keep pointing out "Thread necromancy!", it's only right and fair that when a new thread is made regarding a topic that has clearly been created many times before, that someone immediately post 'Thread conjuration!" :)
You're mixing things. Looking to see if a topic has been addressed is not the same thing as engaging in an argument from 12 years ago with people that likely aren't even on the board anymore. You've made it so that pointing out to someone that they've engaged in an old discussion is the same thing as requiring a detailed search for all previous topics -- it's a poor argument that's not well connected. Generally, people who necro old threads are new posters, and I typically toss them some welcome XP and let them know they've posted to an old thread so that they can understand why they're getting no responses from the people they've quoted.

And, then there's the threads that are about prior editions that are responded to with current edition, which is common enough as well.

There's no rule against necro'ing threads, and I think that's peachy. There's also no rule that prevent someone from pointing out that the new responses are to decade old posters quite often.
** In the spirit in which this thread was created, I hope and expect someone to please do a search on this exact same topic, then post the link to that thread that also decries the continued castigation of thread necromancy, and follow it up by a "Thread conjuration!" response. Thank you. You do the Arneson's work.**
Heh, good luck with that -- the insistence that people agree with your take or do the homework you insist on isn't really something people are actually beholden to.
 


Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Eh, every conversation is new to somebody. I don't habitually walk into rooms and complain that there are people present talking about something I spoke to somebody about last week. :)

I do.

They should've been there last week. Or at least read the memo. Sheesh, the nerve of those people.

Remember- there are no dumb questions. Just dumb people that ask questions.
 

Oofta

Title? I don't need no stinkin' title.
I may make a comment just to let people know that the posts they're reading are old. Especially when it's really old.

Doesn't mean I care, just that I want to let the person who necro'd a thread that time (and occasionally edition) has moved on and there might be new information.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
I may make a comment just to let people know that the posts they're reading are old. Especially when it's really old.

Doesn't mean I care, just that I want to let the person who necro'd a thread that time (and occasionally edition) has moved on and there might be new information.

Whether time has moved on or not, usually the people have moved on. If you are responding to a 15-year-old thread, the chances the poster you're responding to is still active is low. Telling folks that helps set their expectations about whether they'll get a response or not.
 

jgsugden

Legend
Scheduling a note for 2024 to necro this thread

There are two sides to a necored thread. One is a continuation of relevant discussion that stalled previously, but remains relevant. ANother is when someone necros a thread and people respond to elements that are no longer relevant or accurate due to changes in knowledge, product or other factors. Unfortunately, the second situation is far more common than the first.

The most common necro discussions I see are where someone has found an old thread, likely via internet search, that discusses a minor rule or opinion and then responds t it - not realizing that the situation has changed considerably since the last post was written.

I've suggested a number of times that it would be very beneficial to the community if there were a warning message when you respond to a thread that has not been updated in a long time. As long as people make informed decisions to respond to it based upon the situation and understand that things may have changed since 2017, there should be no problem.

However, it does get tiring to see someone bring up a thread just to disagree with it because the thread was written before Mordenkainen's was written and the person responding is doing so to say the initial poster is wrong and they can prove it by pointing to something in Mordenkainen's.

I almost always comment on a necroed threat to note it has been necroed just to frame the thread - but it isn't driven by anger. Except in those rare instances where someone did it just to try to ridicule something someone posted years ago.
 

billd91

Hobbit on Quest (he/him)
I'm completely unfussed by threads that get the necro treatment.
I will note that looking at the forum via tapatalk may facilitate thread necromancy. I frequently see old threads listed as if they're still active and/or new.
 





el-remmen

Moderator Emeritus
The threads I'd like to necro are from pre-2002 - like my classic "BULLYWUGS GOT THE SHAFT!" thread complaining about a lack of hop attack for 3E bullywugs. Don't worry though, I gave them one for 3E and 5E.
 

J.Quondam

CR 1/8
I'm usually just interested in why they got necro'd. There's a difference between when a spambot rezzes a thread to post copy-paste nonsense, as opposed to when a human does it because they just were delving into the bowels of history.
And the responses are almost always amusing... especially for ones about products or current events.
I do miss not having the OP dates visible on the main page for just that reason, though.
 

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