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Why do women send mixed signals?

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*sigh*

Ok, I just GOT to reply to this. I didn't want to get involved, but...

KenM said:
A: If you pay for a nice $200.00 dinner, or pay $200.00/ hour for an escort, its still paying for sex, we all do it, this way is more direct.

The whore will have sex with ANYONE for $200.00. The dame will NOT have dinner with anyone, only with someone she is interested with. AND will stick around if she likes you, dinner or not.

Comparing all womenhood to whores is extremely insulting. Then you wonder why people "attack" you. You're the one throwing stones dude.

And the peeps are STILL trying to help you out, after your despicable behaviour. I'm impressed with the ENworlders at large, they truly are a nice and caring bunch.

Way more than you deserve.

B: Excuse me for not raping someone and geting arrested. So if you were in my situation, you would have raped her and gone to jail? What a nice guy you are.

Going to jail or not shouldn't be in the equation man. Is that the only thing that keeps you from raping girls ?

C: Late in this thread, i said I would get help.

And yet, you come back with your antics. All that needed to be said WAS said. If you were genuine about your intent, you wouldn't come back for more.

Admit it, you like the attention.

H: So I will allow it to happen again and be screwed over again? I have too much respect for myself for that. I won't let people use me as a doormat.

You obviously don't care about respect from others, so self-respect is the only kind you'll ever get.

Good luck.
 

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Warlord Ralts said:
It is when you try playing the "All women are whores" card, and play it badly at that.

You are equating a woman who stayed a virgin till she was married, was romanced by her husband, and enjoyed a long engagement with a $200/hr hooker.

THAT'S disrepectful.

Show me where I used the words: "all women are whores". Again, someone is putting words in my mouth and speaking for me. I never comapred one women to another. I'm not saying all women go and work for an escort service. I never said, all women are like that. All I meant is men, in the cortship game, spend money when they take someone out. I just spent it so it was more direct. I did not mean that all women would sleep with someone if they took them out to dinner.
 

KenM said:
Show me where I used the words: "all women are whores". Again, someone is putting words in my mouth and speaking for me.

No Ken, they are taking meaning from what you say. It's called communication and judging by the number of "Show me where I said (X)" comments from you--followed by people showing you--you really, really suck at it.

Fo the record, it is post #358 and it goes like this..."A: If you pay for a nice $200.00 dinner, or pay $200.00/ hour for an escort, its still paying for sex, we all do it, this way is more direct."

Kenm said:
I never comapred one women to another. I'm not saying all women go and work for an escort service. I never said, all women are like that. All I meant is men, in the cortship game, spend money when they take someone out. I just spent it so it was more direct. I did not mean that all women would sleep with someone if they took them out to dinner.

And looky there! Despite asking to be shown "where you said" all women are whores, you know exactly the comment people are talking about.

Quit being so disingenuous, it's not credible,.

Own up to the crap you say Ken. You are looking more and more scary, childish and retarded with every passing moment.
 

Show me where I used the words: "all women are whores". Again, someone is putting words in my mouth and speaking for me. I never comapred one women to another. I'm not saying all women go and work for an escort service. I never said, all women are like that. All I meant is men, in the cortship game, spend money when they take someone out. I just spent it so it was more direct. I did not mean that all women would sleep with someone if they took them out to dinner.
OK, I'll show you.

KenM said:
A: If you pay for a nice $200.00 dinner, or pay $200.00/ hour for an escort, its still paying for sex, we all do it, this way is more direct.

Yes, you did. You know it, I know it, nice try on weaselling out of it.

"Men, in the cortship game, spend money when they take someone out. I just spent it so it was more direct."

Nice try, but you are a no-go at this station.

I didn't put a single word into your mouth. You did. Take responsibility for once, man. You're 37 years old, not 5.
 

Warlord Ralts said:
OK, I'll show you.



Yes, you did. You know it, I know it, nice try on weaselling out of it.

"Men, in the cortship game, spend money when they take someone out. I just spent it so it was more direct."

Nice try, but you are a no-go at this station.

I didn't put a single word into your mouth. You did. Take responsibility for once, man. You're 37 years old, not 5.

He's about to ignore your entire post except to point out that you are calling a handicapped guy a "weasel"

Or am I putting words inyour mouth Ken??? :\
 

This is the last time I ask for advice. Thank you all for your support filled thoughts and well wishes. Turns out I'm right, if you don't do what people ask, those people are labeled freaks and outcasts. Because I give you reasons for not wanting to try some of these things, you all say " YOU MUST DO THIS TO FIT IN" and "I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, YOU MUST DO WHAT WE SAY"
And you wonder why I am the way I am. I did make an apointment with someone new. I printed this thread out to show my new doctor. Thank you for proving me right. I'm done now.
 

KenM said:
And you wonder why I am the way I am. I did make an apointment with someone new. I printed this thread out to show my new doctor. Thank you for proving me right. I'm done now.

This will solve at least one of your problems -- you won't have a spare $200 to waste on chicks! :)

Ah, the lucky doctor, having so much juicy stuff to read...

-- N
 

KenM,

It sounds to me like you’ve been hurt by a number of things over the years: hurt by the opposite sex (girlfriends who leave, women who give you mixed signals), hurt by social situations (large groups or gatherings in which you feel uncomfortable, social obligations you were dragged to that you didn’t like), hurt by communication (times you perceived something was said but not held to, or not followed through, or misrepresented), hurt by the public (on a forum, for instance, where the discussion grew heated and you found yourself on the defensive), hurt by a parent figure, and hurt by the larger world in general (when it eluded your perception or exhibited a complexity not accounted for or encompassed by categorization). I think you’ve been hurt a lot, which is why you mentioned wanting to “get even.”

That’s why I would point you back to everything Teflon Billy has said, as well as the very poignant post by barsoomcore, and the comments of just about everybody else in the thread. There is such eminent wisdom there to be gleaned.

Why?

Because everyone of those people who offered that wisdom, has been hurt, too. Some of them with such intensity it’s amazing they survived. But they did, and they went one better than that. They’ve thrived. And they know what they’re talking about.

Maybe they haven’t gotten the sprinkler system installed like they wanted to yet, or finally got that 1966 Shelby Ford Cobra they always had their eye on fixing up, or maybe their children haven’t grown up with an interest in the sousaphone like they always hoped, or maybe they’re not living in the city they always dreamed of, but they’re thriving nonetheless, because every day they risk getting hurt, and every day they keep going to try and make it better.

NOT because they’re ever going to escape all hurt. No one ever escapes that, until Atropos cuts the thread. Everyone gets hurt, often, and for no good reason. That’s life. But they keep striving because being human means striving anyway in spite of that. Not to be the best, or fastest, or coolest, or funniest, but striving to be ALIVE. Along the way you can shoot for the best, or fastest, or coolest, or funniest, but you have to live in order to do those things.

They’re not offering this advice to point out they got hurt and how it was worse than you. They’re offering the advice to point out they got hurt and they’re STILL GOING, still trying to get up in the morning and figure this thing out, even when, and perhaps especially when, you can’t figure anything out! And along the way, you just might figure something out! You might figure out that, for many of the hurts, you, YOU, KenM, allow yourself to be hurt, and you can allow yourself to be happy.

The difference is, when others go to someone for help, they try to act on that help to keep moving. Humans are like some species of shark: they have to keep swimming or they die (note I said some, ‘cause there’s always someone who shows up and says, “Not all sharks have to keep moving to live.” Yes. I know. You’re very clever. Shut up and embrace the analogy. Don’t pay attention to the finger, or you’ll miss the beauty of the moon). So when someone gives them the bad news, like “You may have to change your behavior, or your perception,” they say, “Damn, that hurts, but I’ll try it and who knows.” And it often turns out that it’s not bad news, it’s really good news, and suddenly, the next thing you know, you’re talking to (lots of different, interesting, complex) women, or improving your education, or helping someone else out, or eating healthier, or noticing details in local flora and fauna you never noticed before, or recognizing that something amazing was in front of you the whole time. This is something that the right professional therapist can help you achieve.

So barsoomcore’s right (pay attention to him and Teflon Billy and Warlord Ralts and some of the others here. They are seriously wise dudes). You can’t exist without pain at some point, and, frankly, without pain at many points. So you might as well walk out the door and find out what’s waiting.

Some of it will hurt like hell. And some of it will make you stand there and shake your fist at the heavens and say “Send another.” Life’s not about getting even. It’s about living until it’s time to die. Along the way you’ll garner enough scars to realize why living is so effen great. Not because we’re masochists, not because we “win,” not because we get “revenge,” but because you’ll look back and be stunned by how amazing it is, and turn back around and get ready to be stunned by it some more tomorrow.

Women send mixed signals because some of them are deceptive, some are confused, some are flighty, some are playful, some are caring, some are distracted, some are uncertain, some are reflective, some are private, some are giddy, and some are all of those within the course of a day. In other words, human. We’re all flawed, man, and so you have to laugh at yourself at some point and say, “Wow, she made a fool out of me. How silly! What the heck, I’ll try to talk to a different woman, and see what happens then!” Or say to yourself, “Wow, my perception of that situation wasn’t accurate, and she wasn’t deceiving me in order to prove how much she hates me and therefore reinforce my deeply ingrained sense of how the world is out to do me wrong. In fact, she wasn’t deceiving me at all! Actually, she’s pretty cool and has a brain of her own and desires, some of which may intersect with mine, some of which don’t, and that makes here REALLY INTERESTING, and I’d like to know more about her, like what kind of food she likes, and does she paint, and has she ever flown a glider, and what she thinks needs to be done about the sad state of FM radio in this country.”

Don’t have any expectations. Maybe the different woman will “make a fool out of you,” or maybe not. That’s the shot you take, that’s the risk of getting hurt. The best women will be the one’s that can laugh at themselves AND YOU right alongside you.

You ever wonder why soldiers have such an intense sense of humor? Because they’re in the :):):):)! You have to laugh, or you go bananas! Welcome to life. It’s hell. Have fun.

Warrior Poet
 


Late again.

Man, I have got to learn to type faster.

KenM, good luck, and I hope your new appointment is the first step toward better things for you. Seriously.

Warrior Poet
 

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