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Why do women send mixed signals?

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KenM said:
Because I give you reasons for not wanting to try some of these things, you all say " YOU MUST DO THIS TO FIT IN"

Well, if you don't do those things which are cultural norms, then you won't fit in. You don't have to do them, but you won't get the results you desire if you don't. You can try to reason around that fact all you'd like, and provide any number of reasons why you don't want to do any given thing, but all the reasoning in the world won't change that you have to abide by cultural norms to fit into the culture. I think people keep repeating this advice because you still seem to want to know what can be done to improve your lot. If this isn't so, you could simply ask for the thread to be closed.
 

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This is the last time I ask for advice. Thank you all for your support filled thoughts and well wishes. Turns out I'm right, if you don't do what people ask, those people are labeled freaks and outcasts.

Well, more, they're labeled selfish and cruel, which makes them outcasts because who wants to be around someone who is only interested in doing what they want themselves?

Because I give you reasons for not wanting to try some of these things, you all say " YOU MUST DO THIS TO FIT IN" and "I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT, YOU MUST DO WHAT WE SAY"

We don't tell you those things because you give us reasons, we tell you those things because you have the power to control your own actions. The reasons only matter to help you solve the actions. The ACTIONS, what you DO, that is what matters. And what you've DONE is tell 99% of humanity that they aren't worthy of your time because they lie. You do not HAVE to react to things in one way. You have freedom of choice. You are not a mechanism, you are a human being, and you can choose to be a jerk to the people who lie to you or you can choose to not be a jerk to those people, whatever your wants and desires truly are, you can choose in a way which does not act solely from them.

And you wonder why I am the way I am. I did make an apointment with someone new. I printed this thread out to show my new doctor. Thank you for proving me right. I'm done now.

For the most part, we don't wonder why. The reasons, again, aren't what matters to us, the general uncaring public. What matters is what you do.

What you've done is get help, and take an active hand in showing some of the problems. This is good. This is working on it. This shows that you have the ability to take control of yourself, rather than letting your instincts and emotions dictate your life to you.
 

KenM said:
Ok, so I was talking with this girl I meeet though a personal service. We have not meet, just talked on the phone. SHE asks if I wanted to meet her tonight for dinner. I said sure. So at my lunch hour today, I call her today on my lunch hour to take care of the details, ect.. Then she says she can't meet because she has to make plans with her family for the holiday weekend. Why ask me to dinner and then back off all of sudden? I'm sick and tired of getting mixed signals from women. "Ken, i know I kissed you on the mouth, but I did not mean it THAT way." and " I know I'm sleeping right against you in my panites and your tshirt, but we are just friends." Why can't women be more straghtforward?

It appears you haven't heard of the Ladder Theory.

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

:cool:
 

Something else: one of the most important things I think you can do as a person is participate in something that is bigger than you, and by that I mean more significant.

There's a great photograph I saw in the paper today, a photograph of some rocket scientists. Something really cool recently happened: we (humans) managed to get a research rocket to slam full-on into a comet, way out yonder somewhere (yonder: it's a technical term). This is going to allow the scientists to glean all sorts of information and learn more about comets and rocketry and guidance systems and distance and all sorts of other stuff that's way, way over my head (but way, way cool).

So, there's a photograph of the scientists monitoring the computers as the rocket hits. They're in the control room, and they're on their feet, fists raised in the air, and cheering grins of triumph on their face. There's one guy in particular who looks really ALIVE! His hands are held before him and his face is lit up and he looks celebratory and chubby and elated and successful and positive. Why? Because this whole thing of getting the rocket to hit the comet is his doing? No way. He's not even named in the photograph caption. He's not even in as much focus as the other scientist in the foreground. But he's not thinking about himself at that moment, or about winning the lotto later, or whether the Twins will hold it together long enough to make the post season, or if he should have pork chops or dolmades for dinner tonight. He's celebrating this really, really cool thing that happened, that involved way, WAY more people than himself, but which he got to be a part of, a little part, just enough, but it's important and it's BIGGER THAN HIMSELF. This doesn't make him feel somehow discarded by the world or worthless or ignored. There's plenty of other things in the world that will do that to him, most of them on I-85 on the drive home later. No, it makes him feel terrific because he helped, and it achieved something (even something small like hitting a comet with a rocket, and it's still small, even if it's cool, and that's why the universe is so cool, 'cause it puts everything into perspective).

BUT, he wouldn't have been able to participate in something bigger than himself, and feel good about being a participant (which is a good feeling, and doesn't mean giving up your individuality), if he didn't "participate" with the other scientists, and that doesn't just mean getting lift-off and gravitational escape vectors figured out, it means showering, and being able to communicate with others, frequently about topics that are challenging because they don't necessarily mesh with his view of the world, and it means being able to put his own expectations aside sometimes, so the project lead can make sure everything stays on task, and it means he probably won't live to be the person who figures out that comet ice cures cancer. But the scientists that figure out comet ice cures cancer (or whatever) couldn't have done it without that guy, who had to make some decisions about his interactions with others in order to contribute something to the experience here on ol' Number 3, Solar System, local.

Warrior Poet
 


KenM said:
Thank you for proving me right. I'm done now.

Aah... the wonderful self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe that is why the first doctor wouldn't help in the first place. It is difficult to help someone who thinks they have it all figured out.

DM
 


Orblivia said:
I cast the gay on this thread.
Oh great, now you're callling him gay. That's hate speech, doncha know?

Oh well, now at least we'll get at least 4 pages of him telling us that's it not his repressed homosexuality that makes it difficult for him to operate in a social setting. He's not really thinking about what's behind other men's zippers at the social gathering that makes it so hard for him to speak.

Now you've gone and done it.

Nice job.

;)
 


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