Windows 10 - Convince me.

Okay, so the topic title is problematic, it's the best I could come up with.

The gist is I posted on the Microsoft website a query and they banned me for "content violations" - So I will posed the same question here.
Why should I upgrade to Windows 10?

Keep in mind I DO NOT own, operate or otherwise use the following:
A smartphone - phones are for phone calls, computers are for computing
Texting - if you want to talk to me RIGHT NOW, call me otherwise send me an email and I'll answer when I can.
Now Social media - I HATE Facebook, Twitter and such, if I cared what your friends, girlfriends dog was doing, I'd ask. Also, if I wanted my "friends and family" to find me, I would tell them where I am, your marketing department should not care. (Facebook should be outlawed because of this invasion of privacy alone)
Cortana - no smartphone, no smart-alack phone assistant.
Touch screen anything.
Cloud assisted media - I like my personal CDs, DVDs and files to not be tagged and delivered to the world, thank you.
Xbox - I don't own one

Now, it's not that I'm downing Windows 10, I'm not, it appears to be an upgrade of 8 via cranial-rectal removal surgery and that's a VERY good thing. But all of the reasons to upgrade that are part of their snazzy little ad campaign just make me think - useless (at least to me anyway). So IS there any reason for me to upgrade, even if it is free?


I realize that I sound like an old crotchety man, well I am.. So shut-up and get off my lawn before I hit you with my cane and call the cops... lol
 

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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I dunno. Sounds like you should get a typewriter. :)

I'm no help. I love all the stuff you hate.
 


Ryujin

Legend
Well there's one good reason; if you're going to continue using a Windows based PC, it's your only upgrade path.

I've installed it on one PC, a Dell XPS notebook that's a few years old. So far I'm liking it far better than win8/8.1 by far. It's hardware aware. If it doesn't find a touchscreen, it doesn't give you that stupid tile interface. It has a tile based Start Menu that's actually not too far from a real Start Menu. All the software that I used in Win7 seems to be working fine. In short if you're a Win7 user, it's not a quantum leap going to Win10. Sure, they moved around some things that they really didn't need to, but they always do that.

The one personal drawback that I've found is that it didn't bring over my mail from Windows Live Mail, into their new mail application. Good thing I did it on a secondary PC first.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Now Admiral, you've seen me in action at the ENnies, it's not the technology I hate, it's all those annoying people. lol

Fair enough!

That said, though, if you don't want W10, don't get it. W7 is just fine. I upgraded because I like new and shiny, but if that's not you then stick with what you like and know. :)
 

Well there's one good reason; if you're going to continue using a Windows based PC, it's your only upgrade path.

I've installed it on one PC, a Dell XPS notebook that's a few years old. So far I'm liking it far better than win8/8.1 by far. It's hardware aware. If it doesn't find a touchscreen, it doesn't give you that stupid tile interface. It has a tile based Start Menu that's actually not too far from a real Start Menu. All the software that I used in Win7 seems to be working fine. In short if you're a Win7 user, it's not a quantum leap going to Win10. Sure, they moved around some things that they really didn't need to, but they always do that.

The one personal drawback that I've found is that it didn't bring over my mail from Windows Live Mail, into their new mail application. Good thing I did it on a secondary PC first.
See, this is what I need to hear. All of the features that they discuss are based on social media and alternate hardware applications, I 'm looking for actual hard data on usage, performance, etc - Microsoft has refused to really put it out to the public and it made me wonder - smoke and mirrors? Thanks
 

Fair enough!

That said, though, if you don't want W10, don't get it. W7 is just fine. I upgraded because I like new and shiny, but if that's not you then stick with what you like and know. :)
Part of the problem is I don't know. All anyone can talk about in the media ads are the social media and cloud applications, which for me are obviously useless, but what is there that would be useful - processing time down, streamlined start-up software, less intrusive or pared down "house keeping" functions, etc, none of the bare-bones functionality is being publicly revealed or discussed.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Part of the problem is I don't know. All anyone can talk about in the media ads are the social media and cloud applications, which for me are obviously useless, but what is there that would be useful - processing time down, streamlined start-up software, less intrusive or pared down "house keeping" functions, etc, none of the bare-bones functionality is being publicly revealed or discussed.

Well, do you *want* to be convinced?
 

Well, do you *want* to be convinced?
Sure, why not? Like I said, I really do want to know what this software can do me, even more importantly than what it can't do for me, but no one seems to talk about that stuff.

My point being, what , if anything is there that would make me want to upgrade. I mean, it's free, that's a pretty good incentive, but if I end up just having it sit there running all the pretty-shinies and it's not really doing anything, that to me is annoying, and more to the point, if I don't use or want to use a functionality is there a way to disable said functionality so it doesn't steal processing power, etc.
 

Ryujin

Legend
You can choose whether or not to use the tile interface. By default it reads your hardware during installation and if it finds a touch enabled screen, it enables the tile interface. If not, then it doesn't.

Start-up seems faster than Win7. About the same as Win8/8.1, which I find subjectively faster than 7.

In operation it seems to run OK on the system ion which I have it installed. No slower than Win7 and perhaps slightly faster.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Sure, why not? Like I said, I really do want to know what this software can do me, even more importantly than what it can't do for me, but no one seems to talk about that stuff.

My point being, what , if anything is there that would make me want to upgrade. I mean, it's free, that's a pretty good incentive, but if I end up just having it sit there running all the pretty-shinies and it's not really doing anything, that to me is annoying, and more to the point, if I don't use or want to use a functionality is there a way to disable said functionality so it doesn't steal processing power, etc.

Honestly, I'd stick with W7. I enjoy the new and shiny, like networking all my computers and consoles, and like having voice control over it all. That's what attracted me. Otherwise, W7 worked just fine for me. I guess for me, every step towards Star Trek where I just walk into a room and tell the air what I want done is a bonus, but if that's not your thing, then W7 is just fine. It's why I like Apple stuff, too.
 

Hand of Evil

Adventurer
Epic
Window 7 stick with it as long as it is supported. Windows 10 is okay, lot better than 8 but not a reason to change from 7. One of the first things I did was create a Godmode folder on my desktop to find everything.

create a folder on your desktop and name it: GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}
 
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Jhaelen

First Post
Personally, I'll wait as long as I can before I switch from Windows 7 to Windows 10, i.e. when Microsoft stops supporting Windows 7.

Having said that, Windows 10 isn't actually bad - unlike Windows 8. There's just no reason to upgrade unless you have software you'd like to use that won't run on Windows 7.

(Note that I'm a software developer, so I'll likely have to work with Windows 10 a lot earlier than I'll start using it on my private PC.)
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
The overall impression I have gotten, from multiple sources, is that if you aren't using touchscreen hardware, there is no compelling reason to upgrade from Win7 at this time. The performance benefits aren't Earth-shattering.
 

Janx

Hero
Well there's one good reason; if you're going to continue using a Windows based PC, it's your only upgrade path.

I've installed it on one PC, a Dell XPS notebook that's a few years old. So far I'm liking it far better than win8/8.1 by far. It's hardware aware. If it doesn't find a touchscreen, it doesn't give you that stupid tile interface. It has a tile based Start Menu that's actually not too far from a real Start Menu. All the software that I used in Win7 seems to be working fine. In short if you're a Win7 user, it's not a quantum leap going to Win10. Sure, they moved around some things that they really didn't need to, but they always do that.

The one personal drawback that I've found is that it didn't bring over my mail from Windows Live Mail, into their new mail application. Good thing I did it on a secondary PC first.

Along with this, the big problem of XP and Vista is that nobody upgraded. ever. Eventually that means you can't get a printer that works.

Windows 10 is a free upgrade (for win7/8 users). That means for $0 you can get all of your modern PCs running the same OS. And pre-Win8, that OS actually runs better.

Windows 8 introduced some radical performance improvements that were clouded by the crappy interface changes. But stuff really does run better inside of it, due to how they handy sleeping applications that don't have the Focus.


Another plus of this upgrade is that it is the "last" upgrade. After this, like Apple, MS intends to just keep updating it. For free. Sure, one day, your PC will be too slow to accomodate the latest whatever, but at a fundamental level, all your PCs can run the same OS. Not splitting hairs over "that one is still on Vista, this one is 7...."

That'a s PITA in my multi-PC house where I have more IT concerns going on.

And its free if you have Windows 7 or 8.x. I can see balking when it costs money. This is free. And it'll probably work. Compared to some past upgrades where you're better off wiping and starting fresh.

I upgraded my Surface Pro3 a few weeks back. Win10 is working good. Sure, there's a few differences like the right-swipe menu changing radically so it's hard to get to my Wireless Display Adapter enabling menu. But that's a minority problem.
 

Janx

Hero
Honestly, I'd stick with W7. I enjoy the new and shiny, like networking all my computers and consoles, and like having voice control over it all. That's what attracted me. Otherwise, W7 worked just fine for me. I guess for me, every step towards Star Trek where I just walk into a room and tell the air what I want done is a bonus, but if that's not your thing, then W7 is just fine. It's why I like Apple stuff, too.

I disagree. I'll be working to upgrade my wife's Win7 AlienWare laptop soon. I can post about how well that went/how performance is from a practical view then.

Get your free upgrade. You have 1 year (less a month or so).

It's not about the fancy widgets. It's about snapping your OS to be the current standard. For free.
 


Erekose

Eternal Champion
I went from Window 7 to Windows 8 (and 8.1) and then back to Windows 7. That said, I am a sucker for the "new and shiny" so have upgrade to Windows 10.

It is new and shiny and ... fractionally quicker but other than new and shiny icons I'd be hard pressed to tell a difference between Windows 10 and Windows 7 - which is a good thing! Was a real pain having to reinstall after the Windows 8 debacle 😉
 

Ryujin

Legend
I disagree. I'll be working to upgrade my wife's Win7 AlienWare laptop soon. I can post about how well that went/how performance is from a practical view then.

Get your free upgrade. You have 1 year (less a month or so).

It's not about the fancy widgets. It's about snapping your OS to be the current standard. For free.

I'm going to have to be a little more circumspect in my upgrades, as I run a couple of Win7 based web servers. I'm unsure how Apache and the attendant other apps I've installed will be tolerated by Win10. Also, given that I stumbled across the fact that Microsoft was sharing my bandwidth for their own benefit, purely by accident, I want to be sure that there aren't any other little gotchas out there waiting for me, that might also have security or fiscal impacts.
 

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